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Question: (Republicans or center-right only) After their rout tonight, what should Republicans do next?
#1
Wow, we really screwed up.  Trump is destroying the center-right.  Let's work with Democrats to accomplish something.
 
#2
Nothing.  Everything is fine, Gillespie was a bad candidate, nothing to see here!
 
#3
We haven't kept our promises.  Build the Wall, prosecute Hillary, and the voters will return to us.
 
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Total Voters: 42

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Cathcon
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« on: November 08, 2017, 01:23:30 PM »

Anyone who thinks that running a campaign remotely like Gillespie's is a reasonable path to victory in any competitive race is doing nothing but lying to themselves. What happened tonight was a representation of a very clear message - the country hates Trumpism. You can abandon it, or you can say hello to Speaker Pelosi. Your choice, GOP.

Yes, because Democrats are scared to death about running against tax cuts for billionaires and people being kicked off their healthcare to die in the street. Roll Eyes

The country hates Trump, but it wants a moderate economic agenda, which Ryan and the Movement Conservative establishment is incapable of delivering.

In fact, Democrats gaining control of the House will not get rid of Trumpism or Trump. It will get rid of Paul Ryan though.

Yet if you suggest the GOP adopt a more moderate economic platform while ALSO toning down the cultural conservatism and intolerant rhetoric, you are absolutely obliterated on this site for being a caricature of the Romney-Clinton voter whose voice is not wanted in the party.  Big tents are big on both ends.

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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2017, 11:51:16 AM »

I will grant that passing tax reform would be a net positive for republicans heading into 2018, but it's not because tax reform represents Trumpism, but instead because tax reform has energized republicans for decades. Same goes for making ObamaCare more conservative - republicans have hated health care reform since the days of HillaryCare.

If Republicans pass a Bush style tax cut, then Nancy Pelosi really will be Speaker. And next Republican Speaker will likely be a economically moderate populist 10 years or 15 years from now, who was a big Trump supporter in 2016 and has found out how to adapt that message into a mainstream one.

But Bushism, Neoconservativism and Movement Conservatism as we have known it, will be well on the sunny side of dead.

Honestly, it just feels like you are pushing for your desired type of GOP.

Some liberal once said something like "if you hate the religious right, just wait until you see the non-religious right".  That's basically what Trumpism is, and I really want to go back!

It wasn’t a liberal that said that.
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