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« on: January 12, 2013, 11:46:21 PM »

Is this surprising anyone? You do know there are a number of politicians in this country that take the pro-life stance on abortion, right? Is this some big shock to you?
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2013, 12:30:30 AM »

Is this surprising anyone? You do know there are a number of politicians in this country that take the pro-life stance on abortion, right? Is this some big shock to you?
It is painfully obvious that the "personhood at conception" movement will never succeed. Eventually, scientists and either Congress or the Supreme Court will need to determine exactly when personhood begins, when abortion should become illegal. But it won't be at conception. The more conservatives like Ryan turn the pro-life movement into a "personhood at conception" movement, the bigger they will lose, again and again. You do remember the problem that Mourdock, Akin, and others had in 2012, right?

I don't oppose having to trick people. Do what you have to get elected. These people are just awful politicians. As well, the publicity given to their statements was just as related to their awful way of being stated as the belief itself, if not more.
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2013, 12:45:30 PM »

Is this surprising anyone? You do know there are a number of politicians in this country that take the pro-life stance on abortion, right? Is this some big shock to you?

Yes.

...And you've been studying American politics how long? Do I act all surprised that, lo and behold, in the post-Cold War era, France elected a president that's part of a "Socialist" party? And I don't pretend to know sh#t about French politics. Regardless of how "disgusting" and "inhumane" a position of someone might be in X country, don't act like this isn't par for the course in X country.
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2013, 12:59:14 PM »

Is this surprising anyone? You do know there are a number of politicians in this country that take the pro-life stance on abortion, right? Is this some big shock to you?

Yes.

...And you've been studying American politics how long? Do I act all surprised that, lo and behold, in the post-Cold War era, France elected a president that's part of a "Socialist" party? And I don't pretend to know sh#t about French politics. Regardless of how "disgusting" and "inhumane" a position of someone might be in X country, don't act like this isn't par for the course in X country.

Paul Ryan's position is not in the American mainstream.

Of course not. There are in fact a multiplicity of American politicians well outside their country's own mainstream, as I'm sure is the same for a large number of other nations. The fact remains however that in America, there is a vast amount of right-wing politicians that, in some form or another, would like abortion restricted. Just because this is the absolutist stance in the issue, and, I understand, offends the sensibilities of a large amount of liberals, doesn't mean we should pretend to be surprised that a stance like this exists.
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