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MODU
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« on: August 18, 2004, 11:21:49 AM »

It just changes the method of how electoral votes are counted...not the end of the college itself...infact if all 50 states used this method Bush would have won by a larger margin in 2000...

If every state casted their EV's based on the popular vote of their state, the results would have been:

Bush - 259 EVs
Gore - 258 EVs
Nader - 7 EVs
Other - 14 EVs

**** Damn . . . that was a pain in the butt spreadsheet to come up with.  hehehe ****
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2004, 11:57:25 AM »


Nick,

The remaining 14 EVs come from the "rounding effect." When you have so many third-party candidates, they all draw a little bit of the percentage away from the main contenders, so it's not unlikely to have these fractional EV's left over.  Without rounding (that is, if the states awarded frational EVs), the results would be:

Bush - 259.22
Gore - 258.25
Nader - 14.90

Total - 532.37 EVs
Remaining - 5.63 EVs shared by smaller third-party candidates

Now, if the states were to switch to this model, they would have to come up with a justified method of awarding the EVs evenly.  Say Colorado had 6 candidates for President, but only 3 of them pulled enough popular votes to qualify the awarding of EVs (say 2% of the popular vote).  The other three candidates would be dropped and the state would calculate the awarded EVs that way, ensuring all EVs have been awarded fairly.  Give me a little while, and I might adjust my spreadsheet for that method.
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2004, 01:05:17 PM »


Now, if the states were to switch to this model, they would have to come up with a justified method of awarding the EVs evenly.  Say Colorado had 6 candidates for President, but only 3 of them pulled enough popular votes to qualify the awarding of EVs (say 2% of the popular vote).  The other three candidates would be dropped and the state would calculate the awarded EVs that way, ensuring all EVs have been awarded fairly.  Give me a little while, and I might adjust my spreadsheet for that method.

Ok, taking into the above method of eliminating those who didn't get enough votes, we have:

Bush - 266
Gore - 266
Nader - 6

Odd . . . another tie.  HAHAHA
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MODU
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2004, 03:34:22 PM »


Reignman,

This thread is only 5 hours old.  People are still at work/school.  You can't rush to conclusions such as that.

As far as the electoral college goes, though it's original intent was the act as the "informed" buffer for each state (since the populous didn't have access to all the information we do these days), these days it acts as a "leveling field" of sorts for the nation.  If we went by a strict populous vote election, the Democratic candidates would normally win due to the liberal concentrations in California and New York, as well as in most of your large cities.  By using the census data to redistribute EVs across the nation, it allows for your smaller states like Alaska and North Dakota to fairly compete against California and New York.
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2004, 10:13:33 AM »


I agree.  Gerrymandering is abused by both sides of the political spectrum.  I think it should be done once every decade in relation to the national census.
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