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MODU
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« on: October 25, 2007, 12:35:14 PM »


It's not lost.  It's just not accounted for under gov't contracting invoicing/auditing policies, especially if there are subcontractors involved.  Think of it as your checkbook.  If you don't record the information in the ledger properly, you aren't sure what you've spent or where your spent it at.  It's the same issue here.  They need to put together their expense reports properly, probably by month to coincide with their invoicing practice, and resubmit for auditing.  Just to give you a perspecitve of what's involved, one of my friends is currently working over there solely to put the various contractors finances in order.  She works 16 hour days/7 days a week and will be there for a total of 18 months. It's a lot of paperwork to keep track of.
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MODU
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2007, 02:08:16 PM »

Jesus Christ, wtf is wrong with these *ss government contractors who can't follow simple procedure!?!?  More importantly, wtf is wrong with the idiots who award them billion dollar contracts after they've proven their inability to deliver clean books in the past!?!

The problem here is that most of the financial work is either being done in Iraq itself, there are problems obtaining receipts and invoices from the Iraqi divisions and US suppliers in the US.  On the flip side, trying to send that much information (since they need the hard copies) to the US also adds to the delay and confusion.  Heck, I run into that problem here (without going into details).
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2007, 05:36:55 PM »

If this were $20 million worth of receipts screwed up I'd give em a pass.  But it is far more.  It just screams "war profiteer".

hahaha . . . it might "scream" that, but it is far from the truth.
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2007, 09:44:41 AM »

If this were $20 million worth of receipts screwed up I'd give em a pass.  But it is far more.  It just screams "war profiteer".

hahaha . . . it might "scream" that, but it is far from the truth.

Well, the important lesson here is that if you want to make a lot of money all you need to do is get a contact within the government and sign a fat government contract.  You don't have to deliver on the contract and can pocket the money because there's no solid way to track it.

You betcha
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MODU
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2007, 09:48:34 AM »

Dave, you are correct.  It doesn't matter which party holds office.  There is a complete lack of responsible leadership in this country.  I guess the real question I have to ask is "why are the American people so incapable of selecting responsible leadership"?

Blame the two-party dominated system.  They keep out those that actually want to improve things.  Improvement means a loss of power for the Reps and Dems, and they will fight tooth and nail to prevent that from happening.
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2007, 10:02:19 AM »

I agree that the 2-party system is the driving force behind the problem, but the 2-party system can only exist as long as the people support it.

True, but people are brainwashed with the thought that voting for a third-party is just throwing their vote away, and that comes down from the Dems and Reps.  Indies/third-parties can't even run in some districts due to the rules put in place by Dems and Reps to block outside challengers.  And unfortunately, it's going to take a Perot or a Bloomberg or even a Gates to "buy" the election on the national level, or a bunch on the Congressional level, in order to break the mindset.
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