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MODU
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« on: December 08, 2005, 09:08:19 PM »


It's easy enough to fix the 14th amendment to bring it in-line with reality.  Congress just has to get the balls to do what's right, and not pander to the Latino vote.
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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2005, 09:52:04 PM »

I've never quite understood this notion of someone being born in America becoming a citizen, even if neither of the parents are citizens.  Where did it come from?

"In the beginning . . ." You have to remember what was going on in the US when this was written.  Residents of the colonies  were still citizens of England.  The residents had to be naturalized as citizens of the US after the war was won.  To ensure there was no confusion, those born to the naturalized citizens were automatically citizens as well.  What people tend to overlook is the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction," since there were laws regarding how citizens were to be naturalized.  Just "being here" didn't count.  However, at some point in our history, we lost sight of that and became "the nice country" and just gave citizenship away to every baby that popped out of an illegal alien.

What a thoroughly ridiculous post. The Fourteenth Amendment was adopted after the Civil War.

hahaha . . . you're right, I'm tired.  Smiley  I'll fix it.
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MODU
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2005, 02:08:13 PM »


It's easy enough to fix the 14th amendment to bring it in-line with reality.  Congress just has to get the balls to do what's right, and not pander to the Latino vote.

Not pandering to the Latino vote means being a minority for years to come. Check out what happenned to the Republicans in California after Pete Wilson suggested denying services to immigrants. Do the Republicans really want to repeat this all over the nation?

You forget, I could care less about "parties" and care more for what is right for the country.  If the Republicans would explain why they are for this, and teach the citizens who are unaware/uninformed (which is most of them) the situation, then it won't negatively impact them much than if they did it without an discussion with the public.
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