Are new hampshire and Maine libertarian?

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Lots of Taxachusetts leftists escaping the socialist cesspool they created have really ruined the traditional libertarian/independent streak of New Hampshire. It's still libertarian by New England standards though.

Like Vermont, Maine is socially libertarian but absolutely terrible in terms of economic freedom.

The whole Taxachusetts label is and always has been a right wing lie.

As far the original question no.  Maine is pretty much and all around liberal state, New Hampshire may have some libertarian leanings, is socially liberal, but is more economically moderate than economically conservative.

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Actually the above posters are right that suburban whites fleeing Massachusetts helped push the state to the Right in the 80's and 90's. While the orther Northern New England States like Vermont and Maine were left relatively unchanged and have since moved much farther to the left then New Hampshire if anything New Hampshire moved in the opposite direction, towards the GOP. The continued trends among Native New Hampshire residents, migrants from other states, and Canada have since 2000 moved the State to the left.

Neither are libertarian. Maine is a socially Liberal, economically moderate to populist state. New Hampshire is a fiscally conservative(but decreasingly so) socially moderate state. If the GOP in Northern New England could somehow seperate itself from the National GOP they could indeed restore some modicum of success in Maine, New Hampshire, and even in Vermont.

The Republican Party in Maine seems pretty strong. They have 2 Republican senators (albeit very moderate ones).

That is all they basically have.  Governor is a Democrat, both members of Congress are Democrats, both the state Senate (20-15) and State House (95-55-1) are controlled by the Dems as well.

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"Leftists" moving to New Hampshire are heavily outnumbered by Republicans, twat.

No proof of this claim has been demonstrated. Presumably anecdotal claims from a New Hampshire Democrat are not particularly convincing. Talk to New Hampshire Republicans or conservative/libertarian independents (and I have) and they'll say just the opposite, that its the "Massholes" that are ruining their state.

Of course there are Republicans and independents among the migrants, but there is no reason to believe that they "heavily outnumber" Democrats.

The Boston Globe Magazine article I posted was neither the first nor the only source to at least partially attribute NH's leftward trend to migration from other states. To simply claim it is "wrong" is wrong.

The area where the majority of the former Massachusetts residents have moved to is southern portions of NH (suburban Boston).  That area has moved Democratic at a MUCH smaller pace than the rest of the state.  

Grafton county being the one which has swung the most, Gore won it by less than 1 point in 2000, Kerry by a little under 13 in 04, and Obama by almost 28.  Not a place where many former MA residents have gone.

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Actually the above posters are right that suburban whites fleeing Massachusetts helped push the state to the Right in the 80's and 90's. While the orther Northern New England States like Vermont and Maine were left relatively unchanged and have since moved much farther to the left then New Hampshire if anything New Hampshire moved in the opposite direction, towards the GOP. The continued trends among Native New Hampshire residents, migrants from other states, and Canada have since 2000 moved the State to the left.

Neither are libertarian. Maine is a socially Liberal, economically moderate to populist state. New Hampshire is a fiscally conservative(but decreasingly so) socially moderate state. If the GOP in Northern New England could somehow seperate itself from the National GOP they could indeed restore some modicum of success in Maine, New Hampshire, and even in Vermont.

The Republican Party in Maine seems pretty strong. They have 2 Republican senators (albeit very moderate ones).

That is all they basically have.  Governor is a Democrat, both members of Congress are Democrats, both the state Senate (20-15) and State House (95-55-1) are controlled by the Dems as well.

True but it is generally beleived that if the Republicans were to recover in New England it would have to start in Maine since it has become relatively stable at least while Republicans are still in a downward spiral in New Hampshire.

Though they are still losing ground there, dropped 2 seats in the state Senate and 4 in the State House last year, with the Dems also gaining an Independent seat, (though the GOP did gain one seat back in a Special election).  Granted the state GOP might not be in the utter free fall they are in NH, they are in pretty poor shape in Maine as well.