If a ban on gay marriage was on the ballot in all 50 states in 2010

[Smash255]

Red = banned
Green = gay marriage allowed
Gray = tossup, very close

It would pass in NH, MA, RI, DC, Maine likely wouldn't be a tossup, Maryland would be at least a toss up.

[Smash255]

Red = banned
Green = gay marriage allowed
Gray = tossup, very close

It would pass in NH, MA, RI, DC, Maine likely wouldn't be a tossup, Maryland would be at least a toss up.

I revised it a bit.  DC is 2/3 black... it would NEVER pass in DC. 

The whole idea that blacks are completely against it is a silly.  Did they vote against it California?  Yes, but that 70% number that came out in the exit poll was pretty much garbage.  D.C is a bit closer to 60% black than 2/3 black, and white voters in D.C are VERY liberal.  Polls in MA & RI show Gay marriage has support by a rather large margin.

[Smash255]

Oh no, this thread already fell in the African-American trap.

African-Americans in and near DC are more accepting of same-sex marriage than elsewhere. Enough to not make them automatic nos.

That's not saying much, they voted 70% for a gay marriage ban in California in some of the most liberal areas of the country.  The Upper South isn't exactly socially liberal.  

the 70% number was pretty much bogus, and well d.C, Northern Virginia, the Research- triangle area is a no question about it socially liberal areas.

[Smash255]

Oh no, this thread already fell in the African-American trap.

African-Americans in and near DC are more accepting of same-sex marriage than elsewhere. Enough to not make them automatic nos.

That's not saying much, they voted 70% for a gay marriage ban in California in some of the most liberal areas of the country.  The Upper South isn't exactly socially liberal.  

the 70% number was pretty much bogus, and well d.C, Northern Virginia, the Research- triangle area is a no question about it socially liberal areas.

I was just arguing that Cal has liberal areas with blacks voting decidedly against gay marriage so I could see another liberal area voting against as well, and I think put up to a nationwide vote brings out the religious vote big time. 

I'm for gay marriage, it's not like I want to see this. 

Perhaps, but again that 70% number was pretty much exagerated.  Also in California where many of the blacks are it is very democratic, but not super liberal (contrast San Francisco and Oakland).  However, in the D.C metro its not only heavily Democratic, but quite liberal as well.  Also keep in mind gay Marriage tends to have more support in middle and upper middle class areas than poorer working class areas, the same pretty much exists within the African American community.  You have a much larger % of the African American population in the D.C metro that are middle to upper-middle class than you have in California.

[Smash255]

Seen several people suggest it would fail in Rhode Island

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http://www.projo.com/news/content/BROWN_POLL_05-28-09_0AEH43P_v29.3f6f656.html

[Smash255]

Seen several people suggest it would fail in Rhode Island

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http://www.projo.com/news/content/BROWN_POLL_05-28-09_0AEH43P_v29.3f6f656.html

Rhode Island has a high Catholic %, and I figured most of them would be anti-gay marriage. Guess I was wrong...

Based off what exactly??  

[Smash255]

Seen several people suggest it would fail in Rhode Island

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http://www.projo.com/news/content/BROWN_POLL_05-28-09_0AEH43P_v29.3f6f656.html

Rhode Island has a high Catholic %, and I figured most of them would be anti-gay marriage. Guess I was wrong...

Based off what exactly??  

Catholics I know. Everyone in my Mom's family is Catholic, and they all oppose gay marriage.

Ahh nice logic....