Why should the Republicans give up on social issues? The problem with Libertarianism is that it possesses a fatal flaw even greater then that of Populism. That problem is that is policy of freedom from Gov't goes a long with a freedom from responsibility, but that leads to Gov't dependence and thus increases the size of Gov't and decreases freedom. Limited Gov't can only work when people are hard working and responsible. I am sorry if I am insulting my own generation but this is one the stupidest laziest, most irresponsible generations ever. I hope to god that it is case similar to that of the Counterculture where it is only a small 20 or 30 percent we see on TV and the rest form another "Silent Majority", but I fear that isn't the case this time due to the internet and other forms of instant communication. Many on hear say we heading towards Europe in terms of social permisiveness, why would you want such a thing. Am I the only one thats repulst by the 13 year old father in the UK(By the way I don't think he is the father, I think the 15 year old girl was rapped).
I think Social issues for now should not be tossed asside but they should take a back seat to the Economy. In some cases they may intertwine like the "Octomom" in CA.
The next issue I want to address is the comparison between social issues like Abortion and Gay Marriage to Segregationism. The difference is that although segregationists tried to use the bible to defend there views, there is no moral basis for intentionally depriving a group of people the same rights as those that are given to others on the basis of color. Both sides in the Abortion debate claim that they are defended the rights of the weak and defenseless. I don't see this going away any time soon. Gay Marriage will be unlikely to go away cause I beleive that in ties into the collapse of the family leading to things like the Octo-mom and the 13 year old father which will become a bigger issue as stories like this continue to hit the news will create a backlash at least among those 35 and older and hopefully among sane young people. Republican party will miss out on a lot of really motivating issues like these mentioned. While Fezzy(I am sorry to call you out) being barely a Republican himself may feel we pandered too much to the base, the base feels betrayed and abandoned by out of control spending and a national party that until recently didn't care that much. Some issues will play with both the base and Independents. Some Indies left the GOP because of spending, the war, and corruption. Well the war is a dead issue with Obama in office, the GOP is now on there side on the spending, and the Dems are now doing everything they can to cede the Corruption issue to the GOP.
I agree that the GOP needs to speak to competence, fiscal restraint, individual responsibility, and thrift as opposed to the Dems desparate attempts to stimulate the same irresponsibility that got us into this mess in the first place. Only talking up social issues where it fits into that message. But tossing them aside and throwing them in the trash as National issues would be a big, big mistake.
Spending money on creating jobs is not what got us into this mess...
Anyway the whole thing on Gay Marriage and then tying that into the 13 year old father and the crazy lady with all the kids is pure absurdity. That whole mindset if you allow gay marriage all this crazy crap will be viewed as more acceptable or any of that nonsense has really hurt the GOP among moderates (even those who are against Gay Marriage themselves). & it basically makes the GOP look like a complete and utter joke to anyone under the age of 30. I'm not even suggesting the GOP should drop the opposition they have to Gay Marriage, however the rhetoric is so over the top, so insane, and in some cases so utterly hateful it just makes them appear as complete and utter jokes, and not only to people who favor Gay Marriage.
