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Smash255
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« on: July 23, 2008, 09:14:27 PM »

obama has been running surprisingly strong in florida.

wonder if he is considering nelson for veep?

cant see any way mccain wins without florida.


It would be very difficult...but given how poorly Obama did in suburban Philadelphia...narrow win in montco...only decent in Delaware, blown out in Bucks, Lehigh Valley...McCain could almost make florida up in PA

Because we all know that Primary results = General results...

Obviously! My God what was I possibly thinking?

Only that Obama seriously underperformed in the parts of the state (save Philadelphia proper) that a democrat needs to do well in to win.

Now yes, you are correct in saying that there isn't necessarily a direct link.  However, given the nature of the candidates, and the distinct possibility race and other issues might become a factor...and the relatively high number of Reagan democrats (relative to other democrats in suburban Philly)...and how Obama faired exceptionally poorly in those areas where Bucks, Montco Reagan democrats live...gives McCain a fairly decent shot.

But McCain needs to make sure those liberal and moderate Republicans aren't crossing for Obama either.

I'll admit i was wrong when it came down to MontCo & Bucks in the primary, but I really don't see anyway that Obama not doing as well in those areas during the Primary transfers over into the General. 

I think Obama underperformed in Bucs & montco vs expectations was due more to the pro-Clinton vote than an anti-Obama vote.  Quite simply economics played a major role in the vote and Clinton was seen as the stronger candidate on economic issues.  I doubt that many of the Pro-Clinton economic voters in bucks & MontCo are going to vote for someone with the exact same economic platform as Bush.
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Smash255
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2008, 09:54:13 PM »

I just don't see much in the way of the Kerry blue collar voters going over to McCain's column.  Another year?  Perhaps, but economics is going to be a major factor in this years election, especially in the blue collar areas you mention.  McCain's, Bush style economic platform I jus't be t don't see as going over well with blue collar Democrats.  I'm not saying he won't peel off some, but I just don't see him being able to pull off enough to take the state.  I also think some of those that do go over to McCain would be balanced out by moderate to liberal Republicans and ex-Republicans continuing to move over towards Obama.  A group in which the McCain of 2000 would have likely been able to stem the tide, but the McCain of 2008 who has put himself pretty closely with Bush won't be able to.

You have a few things counteracting each other in PA, I think it does break a little in McCain's favor, but won't be enough to flip the state.
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