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« on: June 02, 2006, 03:21:22 AM »

Is it me or does it look like the nY GOP is trying to hand the Dems the State Senate??

No matter who it is Weld or faso they will both get absolutley demolished by Spitzer, its not going to be close.   Faso will do better upstate, Weld downstate.  It is downstate NY specifically Long island which somehow the GOP has all 9 state Senators that the GOP can least afford Faso.  Weld being from Long Island and being quite socially liberal will still get beat easily by Spitzer.  However Weld will keep the margins quite a bit closer than the social conservative Faso would which will more than likely have some rollover effect on the state senate races on Long Island.  The GOP will probably lose some of the state senate seats on Long Island regardless, but they will lose more with someone as conservative as Faso on the top of the ticket, especially with it looking like the GOP will have 2 social conservatives at the top of the ticket in Faso & Spencer. 

Not that McFarland or Weld have any chance of even being close in their races, but by going with the more conservative candidates they put other seats at risk because of people who are turned off by conservatives.  Not only that, but they push suburban NYC (Long Island and Westchester especially) even further into the Dem column than they already are, and thats the last thing the GOP can do if they ever want to be even remotley relevant again in NY politics. 

The state GOP seems to be moving right at a time where the area they most need to be competitive in, in order to be relevant is moving leftward, a pretty stupid idea.   Long island already is pretty much Dem on the National level, but by bowing down to upstate conservatives, especially social conservatives the NY state GOP may have handed the Dems Long Island for good and dug their own graves of ever having any future in the state. 
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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2006, 02:58:38 AM »

I have been saying for some time that the Republican party of New York would nominate a New York Republican for the Governor's nomination.

Willaim Weld is a left-wing nut case from Taxacussets.

If Weld tries for a primary, he'll be crushed by Faso.


Faso is the nutcase here.  They both will get crushed by Spoitzer, but as  I said earlier in this post this is bigger than the Govenor's race which Spitzer will win big.  This is about the state Senate, having a moderate or liberal iN Weld running against Spitzer will make Long Island and Westchester more competitive, yes Spitzer will still win, but weld would make it a closer race in these areas than someone as conservative as Faso.  A social conservative does not play well on Long Island or Westchester, Faso will get obliterated here.  Long Island and Westchester LI, especially have strong GOP state Senate reprsentation, the larger the Dem blowout at the top of the ticket the greater the chances of the Dems making some major State Senate gains in Long Island and Westcheseter.  Which would give the Dems complete control of the state.  Not only that, but in order for the GOP to remain relevant in NY they need to do well in the big three suburban counties Nassau, Suffolk & Westchester  (and to a lesser extent Rockland,, but LI & Westchester have much larger populations).  These are areas where only a moderate to a liberal Republican on social issues will be competiive, a social conservative will only be competitive ubnder the most extreme of circumstances.  If the state GOP moves more in a social conservative direction they completley lose any chance of ever being even remotley relevant in NY state politics again because Long Island and Westchester will become stronger Dem on the state level as well. 

Boris, this is why this is pretty important because by the state GOP moving in a more conservative direction and endorsing more conservative candidates they put the state Senate as well as any possible relevance in the future at risk, because of how poorly suburban NYC looks at social conservatives.
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2006, 11:56:15 PM »

Willaim Weld is a left-wing nut case from Taxacussets.

Are you basing this on any facts, or just the fact that he's from MA?

Jfern summed it up pretty well.

Well, as another poster noted, the margin for Gore was greater in Massachusetts in 2004 (27.40%) than in New York (24.98%).

Weld is an oligarch who believes that inasmuch as he was born wealthy that entitles him to rule over the rest of us.

Also, please note that he is proud that he appointed the Justice of the Massachusetts Supreme Court that wrote the opinion that legislated 'gay marriage.'




I don't think you comprehend this is New York not a socially conservative state.  You may not  like Weld, but Faso is way out in right field here, way way out there.  % wise they may do about the same, but Faso will  do much worse in  suburban NYC, which means major state Senate GOp danger.  And bye to ever being relevent if the state GOP insist on moving right socially.  So whille your happy that the GOP looks like they will nominate Faso, so I am happy also because their pure right wing lunacy 7 stupidity will give the suburban NYC area the  GOP needs to do well in to survive in NY (Long Island 7 Westchetser) to the Dems for good.
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2006, 11:02:16 PM »

Also, please note that he is proud that he appointed the Justice of the Massachusetts Supreme Court that wrote the opinion that legislated 'gay marriage.'

I'm proud that he believes in freedom and equality as well.

^^^^

We need more WalterMittys Wink

Those in control of your party chased most of them away.
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