Reasonable 2008 maps?

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These maps are hilarious.

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These maps are hilarious.

Sorry, I just don't see Hillary or Feingold taking Wyoming, Smash.


Please tell me what else is wrong.

Santorum's foot in the mouth disease is really going to hurt him in a National election.  Remember how well the GOP used the Voted for it before I voted against it comment by Kerry.  Well Santorum's comments will be fuel on the fire. Santorum is one of the few people I thinK Hillary can beat (along with Frist & Newt) & Feingold IMHO will be an excellent candidate for the Dems.  Tons of charisma, very likeable guy, excellent speaker, doesn't suffer from foot in the mouth disease, and despite being socially liberal has a lot of populist appeal

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These maps are hilarious.

Sorry, I just don't see Hillary or Feingold taking Wyoming, Smash.


Please tell me what else is wrong.

In the map against Hillary I would say Florida, Wisconsin, Iowa & Colorado are wrong.  Against Feingold Ohio, PA & FL are wrong.  Feingold may even be able to take Missouri with his midwest appeal

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These maps are hilarious.

Sorry, I just don't see Hillary or Feingold taking Wyoming, Smash.


Please tell me what else is wrong.

In the map against Hillary I would say Florida, Wisconsin, Iowa & Colorado are wrong.  Against Feingold Ohio, PA & FL are wrong.  Feingold may even be able to take Missouri with his midwest appeal

Hillary takes FL, WI, IA and CO? Are you crazy?

Feingold does not take Missouri under any circumstance. The state is trending GOP more and more each year.

Against Santorum?  YES Against most other Republican possible candidates other than Frist?  Probably not

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These maps are hilarious.

Sorry, I just don't see Hillary or Feingold taking Wyoming, Smash.


Please tell me what else is wrong.

In the map against Hillary I would say Florida, Wisconsin, Iowa & Colorado are wrong.  Against Feingold Ohio, PA & FL are wrong.  Feingold may even be able to take Missouri with his midwest appeal

Hillary takes FL, WI, IA and CO? Are you crazy?

Feingold does not take Missouri under any circumstance. The state is trending GOP more and more each year.

Against Santorum? 

Do you realize that Santorum is about as conservative as Bush and Clinton is usually seen in a more negative way?

Also, while Florida would be closer because of a higher than usual Jewish turnout for Feingold, the state is moving more towards the GOP.

Santorum is more socially conservative than Bush & will not come across as the compassionate conservative Bush was able to come off as (& doesn't have 9/11 to harp on).  Florida isn't moving all that much more to the GOP.  Against the Natl Average Florida was only about 2% more GOP in 2004 than it was in 2000, and 2004 was the height of the President's brother (the govenor) popularity shortly after the devistating hurricanes that hit Florida

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Santorum is more socially conservative than Bush & will not come across as the compassionate conservative Bush was able to come off as (& doesn't have 9/11 to harp on).  Florida isn't moving all that much more to the GOP.  Against the Natl Average Florida was only about 2% more GOP in 2004 than it was in 2000, and 2004 was the height of the President's brother (the govenor) popularity shortly after the devistating hurricanes that hit Florida

I disagree that Santorum is more socially conservative. Concerning Florida, the Democrats had the perfect opportunity to get back at the GOP for 2000. They felt the race was stolen from them. They were going to win it this time. All eyes on Ohio and Florida. What happened?

Bush won by about five points and state/local Republicans had some victories. Overall, it's not going that great for Florida Dems. In fact, there was recently an article done on Jeb Bush and how Florida is trending towards the GOP. I saw it on Yahoo the other day.

Few things

1.  Florida was only 2.5% more GOP than the Natl average in 2004 as oppsoed to .5% more GOP in 2000.

2.  Much of that shift (if not all of it) can be contributed to the carry factor Bush got from his brother being a popu;lar Govenor during a time of crisis in the state.

While you can argue that Santorum may not be more conservative than Bush (although I disagee) perception is key & with some of the comments Santorum has made he can be preceived to be far right on Social issues