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« on: March 08, 2014, 08:43:20 AM »



I wonder if they put voters from areas like Rosedale Queens into this category......
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2014, 10:32:19 PM »

I did not attend.

But the fact is the "GOP outreach" remains too often condescending and critical rather than offering a viable alternative. I haven't had the time to re-read on Paul Ryan's plan but it might be a step in the right direction, I've heard good things about it.

The GOP's problem is that they have almost regressed in terms of the way they view the poor to a mentality more suited to 19th century England. They view poverty as a purely moral issue: poor people are that way because they are morally reprobate (having children out of wedlock and raising them without both parents present; perhaps using drugs like marijuana even though the poor are no more likely to do so than anyone else), lazy (working sub-$10/hr jobs and not "pulling themselves up by their bootstraps"), and irresponsible (because if they didn't buy frivolities like cell phones and televisions, they'd have enough money to retire at 50!).

I was around Latino's for 4.5 years when I was at a job so I understand them.

Please don't even go there, dude. You sound like a GOP pol trying to walk back some ignorant comment he made about Hispanics by talking about how well he treated his landscaper or how he can't be racist because he supposedly has a black friend.
Dude screw you you want to attack me racally with the black friend and the landscaper rhetoric. I will not take that crap from you. You think I am not up on that rhetoric or that response? I am knowledgeable  about that rhetoric. You can take that rhetoric and take it back right at yourself. Just because I am a leaning Republican doesn't make you throwing your rhetoric at me right.

I'm not attacking you. I'm just being frank. You think the fact that there were Hispanic people at your job means you "understand them" and somehow makes up for the serious issues your party has with winning over that group?

I live in a majority-minority state. The county where I spent most of my life is 40% Hispanic and only 33% white. I hear Spanish spoken just about as often as I hear English spoken on any given day. But I don't pretend that I as a white person have any business telling Hispanics what issues should matter to them or making false assumptions about them. I don't support laws that make it harder for them to vote. I don't suggest their relatives in Central America are skulking around the deserts of Arizona and Texas with cantaloupe-sized packages of drugs strapped to their legs, as Steve King (R-Iowa) seems to think is happening, or that they are giving birth to "terror babies" who will undermine our nation, as Louie Gohmert (R-Texas does). I don't think the growth of the Hispanic population in America is going to lead to lower average IQs or undermine our "culture" as people like Pat Buchanan and that research fellow at the Heritage Foundation do.

Listen to what Hispanics are saying. Listen to what your party is saying. That should be enough for you to solve for X.
No man I wasn't saying my views or understanding make up for the gap that the GOP has for empathy/votes with the Hispanic Community. That would be extreme. What I was saying was to be more broad was Latino's don't like to be separated from their family members or friends if some of them are here illegally. Republicans don't get that and what they don't get is some latino's who were brought here illegally by their parents some Republicans don't care about that either wether they get deported or not. You can't have that attitude toward people of Hispanic descent that were brought here by their parents illegally. They might not even speak Spanish to start with and to be deported to a country you don't even know. That's going to far for me.

Dude Steve King is on his own with his comments about Hispanics even Cantor and Boehner questioned his comments.

Louie Gohmert is an old guy and his district is close to Deep South territory. Its generational and geographical with him. Buchanan I hold in higher regard than King or Gohmert what he was saying is America as a whole was gonna be like California politically if the minority population keeps on growing like it is currently. I don't know about the IQ comments by him though.


This wasn't Buchanan's first dance with making racist comments, he has decades of making them.  As far as Gomhert goes, he is 60.  Age shouldn't be used as an excuse anyway on why some comments aren't horrible (oh it's just an old guy), but Louie isn't even old.  He is insane, but he isn't old.

Fact off the matter is, even putting ideology aside (which is another major problem for the GOP), they aren't going to make any headway among minorities until they stop saying stupid s***.   
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