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« on: January 11, 2013, 09:58:44 PM »

Phil Gingrey, a doctor (or does he count as like a "self loathing doctor" or something? You know, like the black Republicans/Tea Partiers?), should not be allowed to speak on this. He should be ashamed of himself. Doesn't he know the narrative is already set?


If by narrative you mean actual medical facts then yes its already set......

How can you defend this??
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2013, 10:08:34 PM »

Well clearly, since he's a doctor, nothing he says here could possibly be ignorant or wrong.

Just like how because he's a Republican/Pro Life, he hates women, thinks they should be submissive, doesn't understand the female body, etc.

Whew. Glad we got your response out of the way early.

Phil Gingrey, a doctor (or does he count as like a "self loathing doctor" or something? You know, like the black Republicans/Tea Partiers?), should not be allowed to speak on this. He should be ashamed of himself. Doesn't he know the narrative is already set?


If by narrative you mean actual medical facts then yes its already set......

Ah, good. Dope Number Two rings in with an early response as well. Excellent.

And I like how the narrative that the GOP hates women and is in favor of rape is now "fact."

By actual medical fats I was taking about the batish crazy comments that he made that flies into the face of actual medical data.  A woman being tense during a rape is not going to stop her from getting pregnant.  Its absurd.  Not to mention he doubled down on the 'legitimate rape' crap by bringing up a 15 year old girl impregnated by her boyfriend and then claiming rape.  

Do you think his comments were acceptable?  
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2013, 10:11:52 PM »

Tammy Bruce said it best on Twitter: Note to all politicians, STFU about rape.

Or to use a Lois line from MITM: "WTH is wrong with you! Have you gone completely insane!" (All caps)

Correct. If you believe something is wrong, just shut up. LEADERSHIP.

No one is telling them to shut up about being pro-life.  They are pro-life, fine they have a right to express that.  However, to go on about "legitimate rape" and strange conspiracy theories about how a Pregnancy from rape can't happen is absurd,  PERIOD.
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2013, 10:23:21 PM »

I'd suggest going back and read Gingrey's comments again if I was talking to a reasonable person. Here's the issue: a) I'm not talking to one b) re-reading means you had to have read it already. I'm willing to bet the Smash level hacks didn't even read it.

First off I did read his comments.  His comments were absurd period.

He brought up the legitimate rape issue again.  Rape is rape, the end.  What the hell does a 15 year old saying to her parents she was raped after getting Pregnant from consensual sex with her boyfriend have to do with this?

Secondly, he started talking about when the ovulation occurs, saying that if it happened prior to the rape then the process was already underway.  So that part wasn't too far off the track.  However, then he suggests Akin was partly right again by using the tense thing and comparing it to how he use to tell women to be a bit calmer who were having trouble getting pregnant.  The medical community (you know those that actually deal in facts) have called it utterly absurd, and they would never suggest a woman who is having trouble getting pregnant is too tense and should calm down.

So are you defending these comments?  Yes or no?
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2013, 10:41:47 PM »

Ok, I'll explain this since you have a very difficult time understanding many things: the "legitimate rape" thing was a reference to forcible rape. Here's something I think you actually understand but you want to be disingenuous. If a girl is a victim of statutory rape, yes, she was raped. Stop trying to make it seem like Republicans don't believe it to be rape. Because her boyfriend didn't force himself on her, there isn't the same level of trauma. But you want to keep playing this game where there's no difference with statutory rape. Whatever. I assume this was brought up so Gingrey could say, "Forcible rape didn't cause the pregnancy. The girl lied. She got pregnant as a result of statutory rape so there wasn't the same level of trauma."

If you seriously believe people in the medical community haven't argued that extreme sudden stress can affect ovulation then you're a bigger moron than I previously thought. In no way did Gingrey or I argue that that necessarily prevents all pregnancy. Period.


The medical community is ripping the ever living hell out of him fornd not be too sense.

Do you think his comments were correct?  Do you think the body can somehow shut down and prevent a Pregnancy as a result of rape?
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2013, 01:02:57 AM »

Phil Gingrey, a doctor (or does he count as like a "self loathing doctor" or something? You know, like the black Republicans/Tea Partiers?), should not be allowed to speak on this.


And Todd Akin was a member of the Science & Technology committee.

Ah, ok. I guess the way Gingrey became a doctor is very similar to how Akin got selected for that committee.

Thanks for continuing your streak of half-assed talking point responses. Can always count on you for consistency, at least.

Ted Stevens was also the chairman of the Senate committee on Science.
That gives us two possibilities.

1)His opinion about the internet being a series of tubes was a legitimate one, worth taking under consideration. He was the chairman of the Science committee after all, for God's sake. He must have had some expertise on these matters.

2)He was a moron who didn't know what the heck he was talking about (and that the Republican leadership were a bunch of morons for letting this man anywhere near that gavel).

Your choice.

You are an absolute moron. Not just moronic. Absolutely moronic. But let me address your irrelevant Talking Points #12 of the day!

Answering #2 in your question doesn't disprove my point that Gingrey is more of an authority. If you want to question his authority, question something in his medical background. Newsflash: the GOP conference didn't make Gingrey a doctor!

You want to argue about Akin and Stevens based on their committee assignments which is totally irrelevant to what is being said. I'm not here defending their authority on these matters.

I don't know if you just think I'm a dope that would fall for your sad excuse of a diversion or you just fail to grasp logic.

The general consensus of the medical community in Gingery is an assclown and wrong.  

Now if you are ill and seek treatment, and go to 100 doctors, 99 of them have a consensus of what it is, but one of the differs.  Which one are you going to put more stock in.  The one that differs or the 99 that have the consensus??
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