As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)

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Bush is moving to Utah when I'm moving to New York, what a co-inky-dink.

Where in NY are you moving to?

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Bushie, maybe I'm just getting oldtimers here but what, exactly, is your new position and don't say "supervisor".......I mean what are you supervising and for who, exactly.

He is listed as Supervisor for some type of scam so when the scam gets busted, he is the one that goes to jail....

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Jeff, I'm interested to know how you got a supervisory position after such a short amount of time with the company (where, prior to promotion, you had a bad feeling about your chances of making it) and -- to my knowledge -- no supervisory experience. I find it strange that a company would put anyone in a position of coaching and mentoring others when they don't have either a) a long tenure with the business, or b) significant prior experience. Three of my current sales reps worked with Xerox through distributors, and it's not an industry for those with weak constitutions.

Also, this job doesn't start until October 1, correct? What will you be doing for a month-and-a-half in Salt Lake City? What will be your funding source until the job begins?

I'm certainly not trying to be a downer ... God knows (as well as some of the members of this forum) that I truly wish you the best. But there are a number of details about this move that concern me. If nothing else, consider them questions designed to satisfy my curiosity. I like to believe I'm fairly savvy ... in business and in common sense. Something about a promotion that leaves you jobless for seven weeks, a company that doesn't provide benefits for more than six months, and a rapid departure without an apparent source of income involving an individual who was making less than $20,000 a year doesn't make sense to me. Please clarify.

When I started the job last June, I was told there would be rapid advancement at least for the first step up the ladder.  At the end of the 4th week, my General Manager said they would be conducting interviews the next week.  I interviewed for a Quality Analyst position and did not get that.  Then, the next week on Monday, July 23, 2012, I interviewed for a supervisor position was starting to get discouraged about that since it had been a week.  Then, last Tuesday morning, July 31, I receive a phone call while I was recovering from my illness that I had been accepted for that position, and there were four locations I could choose from, none being Oklahoma City.  The four locations were Portland, Oregon; Salt Lake City, Utah; Lexington, Kentucky; Raleigh, North Carolina.  I chose Salt Lake City.  The position was supposed to start on October 1, but that it could change as they were still ironing out some details.  However, I got a call last Thursday morning from my Salt Lake City supervisor wanting to set up a face to face meeting just to get to know each other and so I'll know where I will report and he said the position will actually start September 17.  They cutoff my service in Oklahoma City on July 31 to give me time to focus solely on the move without having to lose time while at work.  They told me that they were going to reimburse me for my bills while I'm out of work and also pay for the movers.  I just have to show them the receipt.  I got all this in writing so they can't go back on their word.  My mother and I are going up there next Thursday to lease the apartment and get the furniture moved in and settled and so I can get everything switched over that I need to such as Drivers License, Car Tag & Title, etc. before work begins.  He said that if I get settled in sooner than that and want to start, then to call him up and I can start that next Monday.

As far as the benefits go, a lot of companies I've found require their employees to wait 6 months before they get benefits.  I've got the bills taken care of to get up there and the funds to exist on for the 4 weeks after I get up there before I start work.  They will reimburse me in installments on my first several paychecks.  It won't be one big check, it will be spread out over my paychecks through November.

I hope that satisfies some of your curiosity.

All the more absurd....

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Jeff, I'm interested to know how you got a supervisory position after such a short amount of time with the company (where, prior to promotion, you had a bad feeling about your chances of making it) and -- to my knowledge -- no supervisory experience. I find it strange that a company would put anyone in a position of coaching and mentoring others when they don't have either a) a long tenure with the business, or b) significant prior experience. Three of my current sales reps worked with Xerox through distributors, and it's not an industry for those with weak constitutions.

Also, this job doesn't start until October 1, correct? What will you be doing for a month-and-a-half in Salt Lake City? What will be your funding source until the job begins?

I'm certainly not trying to be a downer ... God knows (as well as some of the members of this forum) that I truly wish you the best. But there are a number of details about this move that concern me. If nothing else, consider them questions designed to satisfy my curiosity. I like to believe I'm fairly savvy ... in business and in common sense. Something about a promotion that leaves you jobless for seven weeks, a company that doesn't provide benefits for more than six months, and a rapid departure without an apparent source of income involving an individual who was making less than $20,000 a year doesn't make sense to me. Please clarify.

When I started the job last June, I was told there would be rapid advancement at least for the first step up the ladder.  At the end of the 4th week, my General Manager said they would be conducting interviews the next week.  I interviewed for a Quality Analyst position and did not get that.  Then, the next week on Monday, July 23, 2012, I interviewed for a supervisor position was starting to get discouraged about that since it had been a week.  Then, last Tuesday morning, July 31, I receive a phone call while I was recovering from my illness that I had been accepted for that position, and there were four locations I could choose from, none being Oklahoma City.  The four locations were Portland, Oregon; Salt Lake City, Utah; Lexington, Kentucky; Raleigh, North Carolina.  I chose Salt Lake City.  The position was supposed to start on October 1, but that it could change as they were still ironing out some details.  However, I got a call last Thursday morning from my Salt Lake City supervisor wanting to set up a face to face meeting just to get to know each other and so I'll know where I will report and he said the position will actually start September 17.  They cutoff my service in Oklahoma City on July 31 to give me time to focus solely on the move without having to lose time while at work.  They told me that they were going to reimburse me for my bills while I'm out of work and also pay for the movers.  I just have to show them the receipt.  I got all this in writing so they can't go back on their word.  My mother and I are going up there next Thursday to lease the apartment and get the furniture moved in and settled and so I can get everything switched over that I need to such as Drivers License, Car Tag & Title, etc. before work begins.  He said that if I get settled in sooner than that and want to start, then to call him up and I can start that next Monday.

As far as the benefits go, a lot of companies I've found require their employees to wait 6 months before they get benefits.  I've got the bills taken care of to get up there and the funds to exist on for the 4 weeks after I get up there before I start work.  They will reimburse me in installments on my first several paychecks.  It won't be one big check, it will be spread out over my paychecks through November.

I hope that satisfies some of your curiosity.

All the more absurd....

How is it more absurd?  There is nothing fishy about what I just posted.  Businesses don't have a one-size-fits-all approach to promoting.  Businesses are allowed to do things that will best benefit their bottom line, even if its not what everybody else does.

I realize Business's don't have  one sized fit all approach however to make someone who has no previous experience as a Supervisor , a supervisor that quickly doesn't pass the small test.  I hope I'm wrong, but something just doesn't seem right.

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i can think of three scenarios:

1. the job was an mlm scam.  in that case it is probably best that it 'fell through.'

2. as j-mann said he got fired from xerox (or is it apple?) and concocted the whole slc story.

3.  he really did have a job offer and failed the background check.

I will go with something similar to the online job he left Ok Nat Gas for.  It was an online offer, and the offer came over to him as a little letter in the body of an e-mail with no company letter head or anything like that.

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If you really want to try and lose weight you should try and make it onto The Biggest Loser. They'll break you push yourself like you can't on your own.

I've thought about that or possibly even Big Brother with those competitions.  However, even though I'm still 250 pounds, I'm only 40 pounds from my ultimate goal of 210.  I can easily do it in the next 6 months.  I'm not going to try to get below 200, as I want to be just a little plump, but definitely a lot lower than I am now.  I'm 40 pounds from my goal, but only 25 pounds from being satisfied.  The range i would like to be at is 200-225.  I have absolutely no desire to be slim, fit, and trim.  I just want to be a lot lighter than I am now.

You have no desire to be slim and fit?

Not really.  The reason is this body is going to die whether it's slim or fat.  I want to let it live as long as possible, so I still want to lose another 35-45 pounds, but I have no desire to be obsessed about it.  I'm more concerned with the health of my soul which will live forever instead of the health of my body which is only temporary.  I'm not done losing weight, I still have the desire to lose quite a bit more, but I'm not going to fret over it.

Just because someone wants to be in good shape and fit doesn't mean they need to obsess over it.  Eating right doesn't men you can never partake it junk food and have to obsess over everything you have, it just means being smarter and after awhile basically becomes 2nd nature so you don't have to obsess over it.  Same with exercising, it doesn't men you need to spend hours and hours at the gym and fretting over missing a day.  However, getting regular exercise does keep you active and more healthy.  Also when talking about weight, obviously you need to lose quite a bit, but you shouldn't just be looking at the pounds body fat% is even more important.