what percentage of the gay vote will Santorum get?

[Smash255]

Depends upon whether he comes out before the election or not.

I was gonna say the same thing.  As I have said before I think the man's bitter for being raped by a priest when he was a 12 year old altar boy.  I also think he loved it and he's trying to cure himself.

Sadly I think it's homegrown by his parents. And even sadder is there are millions of kids being brainwashed the same way.

I guess no one is allowed to be opposed to gay marriage anymore, Akno? No one should be able to say "I don't approve of a gay lifestyle?"

What exactly is the gay lifestyle? Snorting Cocaine and doing casual sex or something? This would be a shock to my gay friends, who are perfectly nice people. Many aren't even sexually attracted to men, just romantically - they just want to be able to someday be recognized as loving their partner.

Anyone who generalizes an entire group to one "lifestyle" is a blind fool who thinks that stereotyping poor behavior over an entire group is appropriate.

I assume, Phil, that is not what you meant to do. I hope, at least.

I do not mean what you stated. I think that just because I don't accept the idea of most gays that they should marry and some other things they do that I should be branded a gay hater or that I was brainwashed. 

Now just as you stated the generalization of gays is foolish, so is the generalization that someone like Santorum, who wants to preserve the insitution of mariage, is a gay hater. I'm tired of that. I'm also tired of hearing that Santorum was raped by a priest from some angry partisan who needs to seek some serious help. You don't say that about people.

I completley agree that the priest comment was over the line.

However Mr Santorum iis far from an innocent man.  His comments speak volumes.  He isn't about so called "preseving traaditional marriage".  The man has nothing but a pure & utter deep hatred for gays.  Just look at the guy's comments.  Comparing gays to beastitality.  THAT IS HATE.  If it wasn't hate & that he just opposed gay marriage, he would have said just that & not thrown in the beastiality crap into the mix.  Santorum gets villified as a gay hater not because that he opposes gay marriage, but because of his utter hate filled comments.

[Smash255]

Santorum's comments were over the line but I really don't think he hates gay people. I hope that in one of the Senatorial debates in 2006 that someone asks Santorum "Do you hate gays?" so he can explain his full position. I truly believe that he is not a hateful man.

Just  look at what he said.  I know he is your hero and everything and you don't think he is capable of being full of hate, just look at the comments.  Those comments WERE AND ARE HATE

[Smash255]

Santorum's comments were over the line but I really don't think he hates gay people. I hope that in one of the Senatorial debates in 2006 that someone asks Santorum "Do you hate gays?" so he can explain his full position. I truly believe that he is not a hateful man.

Just  look at what he said.  I know he is your hero and everything and you don't think he is capable of being full of hate, just look at the comments.  Those comments WERE AND ARE HATE

If he really hated gays, he would come out and say it. He speaks his mind. We already know that.

If he doesn't hate gays than why does he compare their lifestyle to beastiality?

Just look at what he has said about them.  You don'y have to come out & say I hate you about someone.  If you constantly talk bad about them, completley belittle their lifestyle and compare their lifestyle to barbaric practices, that pretty much shows you hate that person or group of people.  And thats exactly whan Santorum has said about gays.

[Smash255]

Santorum's comments were over the line but I really don't think he hates gay people. I hope that in one of the Senatorial debates in 2006 that someone asks Santorum "Do you hate gays?" so he can explain his full position. I truly believe that he is not a hateful man.

Just  look at what he said.  I know he is your hero and everything and you don't think he is capable of being full of hate, just look at the comments.  Those comments WERE AND ARE HATE

If he really hated gays, he would come out and say it. He speaks his mind. We already know that.

If he doesn't hate gays than why does he compare their lifestyle to beastiality?

Just look at what he has said about them.  You don'y have to come out & say I hate you about someone.  If you constantly talk bad about them, completley belittle their lifestyle and compare their lifestyle to barbaric practices, that pretty much shows you hate that person or group of people.  And thats exactly whan Santorum has said about gays.

Santorum has been criticized about this for quite some time. The man speaks his mind. If he really hated gays, he would just say it.

Comparing their lifestyle to beastiality doesn't do that??

[Smash255]

You said earlier that you didn't care that Kerry and Dean were anti-gay marriage but you attack me for having the same position.

 I can't understand how anyone could possibly see the same issue as differently because someone is in their own party. That is a stupid concept that only partisan idiots could agree with.

Well I thought you kept ignoring it for that reason. You wouldn't address my point about that.

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I understand that you think that, but my question is what you believe the sanctity of marriage is. I have never had anyone respond to this question - ever. Everyone always stops at your point. 60% of the population agrees with you, and this is the one issue I haven't been able to understand the opposition to. That is all I want to know - what you consider the sanctity of marriage to be.

The sanctity of marriage is the bond between a man and a woman. I believe it is a gift from God because through marriage, the love shared by two individuals, new life is brought into this world.

 Are you that filled with hate? Tell me Phil, why should marriage be only between a man and a woman?

Don't tell me I am full of hate when you don't even know me. One of the main reasons why I believe marriage should be between a man and a woman is because of procreation.

So the elderly should not be able to marry??  Those that can't have kids should not be able to marry?

[Smash255]

You said earlier that you didn't care that Kerry and Dean were anti-gay marriage but you attack me for having the same position.

 I can't understand how anyone could possibly see the same issue as differently because someone is in their own party. That is a stupid concept that only partisan idiots could agree with.

Well I thought you kept ignoring it for that reason. You wouldn't address my point about that.

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I understand that you think that, but my question is what you believe the sanctity of marriage is. I have never had anyone respond to this question - ever. Everyone always stops at your point. 60% of the population agrees with you, and this is the one issue I haven't been able to understand the opposition to. That is all I want to know - what you consider the sanctity of marriage to be.

The sanctity of marriage is the bond between a man and a woman. I believe it is a gift from God because through marriage, the love shared by two individuals, new life is brought into this world.

 Are you that filled with hate? Tell me Phil, why should marriage be only between a man and a woman?

Don't tell me I am full of hate when you don't even know me. One of the main reasons why I believe marriage should be between a man and a woman is because of procreation.

So the elderly should not be able to marry??  Those that can't have kids should not be able to marry?

It is not their fault that they cannot have children. They aren't doing something unnatural that prevents a life from coming into the world.

So your the judge on whats natural and whats unnatural??

[Smash255]

You said earlier that you didn't care that Kerry and Dean were anti-gay marriage but you attack me for having the same position.

 I can't understand how anyone could possibly see the same issue as differently because someone is in their own party. That is a stupid concept that only partisan idiots could agree with.

Well I thought you kept ignoring it for that reason. You wouldn't address my point about that.

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I understand that you think that, but my question is what you believe the sanctity of marriage is. I have never had anyone respond to this question - ever. Everyone always stops at your point. 60% of the population agrees with you, and this is the one issue I haven't been able to understand the opposition to. That is all I want to know - what you consider the sanctity of marriage to be.

The sanctity of marriage is the bond between a man and a woman. I believe it is a gift from God because through marriage, the love shared by two individuals, new life is brought into this world.

 Are you that filled with hate? Tell me Phil, why should marriage be only between a man and a woman?

Don't tell me I am full of hate when you don't even know me. One of the main reasons why I believe marriage should be between a man and a woman is because of procreation.

So the elderly should not be able to marry??  Those that can't have kids should not be able to marry?

It is not their fault that they cannot have children. They aren't doing something unnatural that prevents a life from coming into the world.

So your the judge on whats natural and whats unnatural??

Well when we look at this situation, Smash, wouldn't you agree that a man and a man or a woman and a woman don't have the ability to create a child?

Granted, but old people don't have that ability, sterile people don't have that ability.

You mentioned that its not the sterile person or the old person's fault that they can't have kids.  You know what its not the gay person's fault either, its not their fault that they happen to be gay.