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Skill and Chance
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« on: October 19, 2012, 09:56:08 AM »

I have an extremely amusing and very late night.

Republicans challenge the results on legal grounds that range from 'very shaky' to 'laughable'. They lose.

The talking heads go into mind-numbing (and occasionally incorrect) detail about the mechanics of the Electoral College for weeks.

There's a fair amount of talk (and a ridiculous amount of media attention) paid to the idea of abolishing the Electoral College. It all comes to naught.

Obama gets sworn in for his 2nd term.

There are small protests in the streets which the media covers as if they're more significant than they actually are.

However... the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact gets a very large boost.  It may make it past the threshold where it will go into effect in 2016. If that happens, there will be tons of wacky election-related hijinks from both parties for the next four years, including, but not limited to: a Supreme Court challenge, efforts to get states who passed it to repeal it, attempts to stack the elector selection process and to change state laws regarding faithless electors, and last but not least, semi-serious succession threats.

Republicans wouldn't pass NPV after an Obama EC win/Romney PV win.  If they did, CA and other large blue states would just change state law to have automatic registration and mail ballots to every social security number in the state.  There would be nothing anyone out of state could do to stop it.
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Skill and Chance
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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2012, 11:00:19 AM »

Republicans wouldn't pass NPV after an Obama EC win/Romney PV win.  If they did, CA and other large blue states would just change state law to have automatic registration and mail ballots to every social security number in the state.  There would be nothing anyone out of state could do to stop it.
Exactly, Republicans won't move to remove a pillar of THE REPUBLIC.  If a structural change is coming it would be: 'House-district electoral votes' in the big bankrupt states like Illinois and California.     

Not a chance in heck they would ever go along with that unless all of the former Confederate states did the same. 

Dems can still get NPV on their own terms the next time have a wave.
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Skill and Chance
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2012, 12:40:05 PM »

Republicans wouldn't pass NPV after an Obama EC win/Romney PV win.  If they did, CA and other large blue states would just change state law to have automatic registration and mail ballots to every social security number in the state.  There would be nothing anyone out of state could do to stop it.
Exactly, Republicans won't move to remove a pillar of THE REPUBLIC.  If a structural change is coming it would be: 'House-district electoral votes' in the big bankrupt states like Illinois and California.     

Not a chance in heck they would ever go along with that unless all of the former Confederate states did the same. 

Dems can still get NPV on their own terms the next time have a wave.

Dems probably will have diminished power in Illinois and California (one way or another) when they go into receivership. 

What can creditors do to a state if it simply ignores its debts?  I'm curious because I honestly don't know the answer.  Obviously the next Dem trifecta would bail them out with federal funds, so why not just sit it out and wait?  Or go Huey Long on state and local taxes.  There will always be some businesses (particularly tourism in CA) that simply can't leave...   
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