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Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P!
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« on: August 04, 2016, 04:53:19 PM »

Brazil's libertarian movement? I'm pretty sure that's about 200-odd rich guys. If you think that they had any significant effect in what unfolded then you really have no clue about Brazilian politics and should stay away from them.

"200-odd rich guys"

"200-odd rich guys"

"200-odd rich guys"

"200-odd rich guys"

I love the standard smears about "RICH PEOPLE" coming from idiot Americans and western Europeans, though. I suppose Solidarity was an undemocratic CIA plot, too.
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Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P!
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2016, 05:08:15 PM »

I love the standard smears about "RICH PEOPLE" coming from idiot Americans and western Europeans, though. I suppose Solidarity was an undemocratic CIA plot, too.

Where do you see any comparision?

You know what the party line was regarding Solidarity? It's the same as the new "party line" towards antisocialists.
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Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P!
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2016, 05:55:22 PM »

I love the standard smears about "RICH PEOPLE" coming from idiot Americans and western Europeans, though. I suppose Solidarity was an undemocratic CIA plot, too.

Where do you see any comparision?

You know what the party line was regarding Solidarity? It's the same as the new "party line" towards antisocialists.

Your "point" being?

My point being that you're all being played for chumps. History will look back on you like people today look back on SB rats or Stalin's fans.

Oh cool, a bunch of people follow them on Facebook! Let's see them make any impact on the next election, lol.

I'll enjoy watching cocky socialists laugh just before they get smashed and cry about racism or what have you, just like the EP elections. We shall see.
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Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P!
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2016, 07:53:07 PM »

I love the standard smears about "RICH PEOPLE" coming from idiot Americans and western Europeans, though. I suppose Solidarity was an undemocratic CIA plot, too.

Where do you see any comparision?

You know what the party line was regarding Solidarity? It's the same as the new "party line" towards antisocialists.

Your "point" being?

My point being that you're all being played for chumps. History will look back on you like people today look back on SB rats or Stalin's fans.

As someone whose family members were actually killed by SB I should be offended, but since you don't appear to know much about the subject, I'll just lol.

If you insist on comparing a broad anti-totalitarian movement, that at it's peak numbered 10 million people all the way from the left to the right, in the age where people wouldn't even dream of the World Wide Web, with the group we're been discussing here, then it's just hilarious.

As if they simply popped into existence with 10 million members ready to go.

Serious change starts with a few radicals that are viciously slandered by the rest of society. To act as though such movements spontaneously had widespread support is not only comical, it degrades the efforts of the few who shouldered most of the risk and those who fought and died to pave the way and up to that point were painted as "fascists" or "reactionaries" or "a few bourgeois elite rebels". The crimes of the regimes they oppose tend to only come out in great numbers after they've won. Stalin was getting praise from Western intellectuals while slaves built his canals and dissidents were getting killed at Katyn.

Libertarians are about as relevant to the real world as Trotskyists and almost as annoying. (And like trots, they only grow relevant if they completely sell out and argue for populism, evangelical Christianity and hyper nationalism.)

Trotsky was a murderer. Nevertheless, Trotskyites had their time in the sun, and that time was the 20s. Libertarians too will have a time in the sun, but our time is not in the past, but in the future.
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