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sparkey
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E: 6.71, S: -7.30

« on: June 01, 2016, 01:16:42 AM »

Which are from the more pragmatic wing? I know Bob Barr freaked out my mother once on a plane and is a well known psychopath.

I'm more familiar with some than others, but my impression is roughly:
Pragmatists: MacBride, Clark, Paul, Marrou, Barr, Johnson
Purists: Hospers, Bergland, Browne, Badnarik

My personal ranking:
1. Gary Johnson (can't argue with the results or qualifications to run)
2. Ron Paul (his LP presidential run was a bit disappointing but he's RON PAUL)
3. Ed Clark (good template for running with broad appeal)
4. Harry Browne (this is the guy who hooked me on libertarianism; a bit radical sometimes but an engaging person)
5. Bob Barr (not a nice guy but he turned in an OK performance and was relatively qualified)
6. Roger MacBride (not exciting but a principled man who did good work to build the liberty movement early)
7. John Hospers (similar to MacBride)
8. Michael Badnarik (a bit of an oddball who was wildly unqualified and would not have been nominated if it wasn't for his amazing LNC debate performance)
9. David Bergland (should not have been the nominee; tanked compared to Clark)
10. Andre Marrou (worst LP campaign by far, I would not have voted for him in the general)
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sparkey
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Political Matrix
E: 6.71, S: -7.30

« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2016, 07:31:56 PM »

[8] Michael Badnarik: A complete weirdo. I don’t see how the party nominated him over their literal founder David Nolan at the 2004 convention. Besides Bergland, he’s probably the most boring nominee.

Badnarik didn't defeat David Nolan for the nomination, he defeated Gary Nolan, a radio talk show host and Browne's chosen successor. He also defeated Aaron Russo, a movie producer. Either Nolan or Russo would have been better than Badnarik in retrospect. Dat LNC debate performance tho.
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sparkey
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Political Matrix
E: 6.71, S: -7.30

« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2016, 10:41:49 AM »


Nope, they're not related. They don't even look alike at all.
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sparkey
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E: 6.71, S: -7.30

« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2016, 09:56:56 PM »

This got me thinking: How would some of our more high-profile candidates who didn't get the nod have ranked? I'm thinking in particular of Russell Means, Mike Gravel, and John McAfee.

A lot of our candidates had a habit of trying to run for the LP nod too many cycles late. Russell Means, Mike Gravel, and John McAfee all were great candidates who ran too late. I mean, how cool would McAfee 2k have been? Instead, he ran when he was 70 after his Belize garbage. Similarly, Gravel ran when he was in his mid 70s, and Means ran an unsuccessful VP campaign for Larry Flynt in 1984 when he could have gotten the LP nod instead and been much more successful.

This would have been a great series of candidates since 1984:
84 Means instead of Bergland
88 Paul (good)
92 Gravel instead of Marrou
96 Browne (good enough)
00 McAfee instead of Browne 2.0
04 Nolan (shoulda been)
08 Barr (good enough)
12 Johnson (good)
16 Johnson (good)
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