Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls

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If Moore is not expelled (if he was elected), then he can be made the face of the Republican Party. Not expelling him cancels out disavowing him.

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Did something happen? No new polls? Is this just Atlas being Atlas?

Jones openly went pro-choice.

FTR, the feeling two weeks ago was that Gillespie, Orman/Kander/Ossoff was closing the gap and Northam Roberts/Blunt/Handel was "blowing it".

FTFY

And see how those turned out? Exactly.

No, all these allegations did was keep the race in single-digits, when it should've gone the way of Parker Griffifth.

And far as I can tell, Jones isn't pulling a JBE-esque campaign either.

Oh for crap's sake, Moore is finished. Child molestation is not okay with voters anywhere, which means that your comparisons are bogus. I swear, a Republican could committed an ax murder of a priest on live television and Atlas would still claim the Republican would win, then act surprised when they lost on election day.

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Did something happen? No new polls? Is this just Atlas being Atlas?

Jones openly went pro-choice.

FTR, the feeling two weeks ago was that Gillespie, Orman/Kander/Ossoff was closing the gap and Northam Roberts/Blunt/Handel was "blowing it".

FTFY

And see how those turned out? Exactly.

No, all these allegations did was keep the race in single-digits, when it should've gone the way of Parker Griffifth.

And far as I can tell, Jones isn't pulling a JBE-esque campaign either.

Oh for crap's sake, Moore is finished. Child molestation is not okay with voters anywhere, which means that your comparisons are bogus. I swear, a Republican could committed an ax murder of a priest on live television and Atlas would still claim the Republican would win, then act surprised when they lost on election day.

What about bodyslamming a reporter or grabbing a pussy?

We know your opinion about this race, you post it several times a day repeatedly. Ignored.

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One notable difference between this race and the Massachusetts 2010 one is that the polls only showed the MA as competitive about a week before the election. The Republicans have over a month to try to recover here.

December 12th is in three weeks. That is far from being over a month.

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Trump probably isn't going to change the mind of anyone who is taking these allegations seriously.

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Ted Bundy really didn't kill all those women. The liberal establishment framed him because he was a Young Republican that could have defeated Bill Clinton and the psychic friends network saw this, so Hillary eliminated him from the equation.

That's exactly how Moore defenders sound.

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smoltchanov managed to get banned from Swing State Project, which was a rare occurrence there. Don't argue with him, because it is 100% clear what he is.

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One reason the race is different than GA-6 is that the NRSC pulled the plug on funding and operations for Moore, something that the NRCC did not do to Handel. Plus, the narrative has become all about the scandal and not about the issues. GA-6 was essentially a proxy war between Democrats and Trump.

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McConnell would need to get the entire Democratic caucus on board to expel Moore, plus 19 Republicans.

48 Democrats/Independents + Collins, Murkowski, Gardner, Flake, McCain is 53. Corker might vote to expel, perhaps even Heller which would bring it to 55 votes. Shelby came out against Moore, so that is a possible 56th vote. Toomey. Portman and Ernst are possibilities, but unreliable ones but let's add them for arguments same for 59. And if McConnell really wants him gone, that is 60 votes. Those last 7 votes are where things could get tough.

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Why would al Qaeda care about Roy Moore?

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These people are deranged. 

Just like Clayburn who said Conyers’ accusers are like the white woman who killed her children and blamed a black man. Yep what about.

Clyburn, not Clayburn. With that correction made, it doesn't matter what other people are saying about other situations. Moore has far more support than Conyers does at this point. "Such and such say/did" is not a valid argument. Two wrongs do not make a right.

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Win or lose, Moore will still burn in hell for what he is done. And I sincerely hope that he does when it's time for judgment day. AN ELECTION AIN'T TICKET OUT OF HELL, LOL!

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Win or lose, Moore will still burn in hell for what he is done. And I sincerely hope that he does when it's time for judgment day. AN ELECTION AIN'T TICKET OUT OF HELL, LOL!

Again we don’t even know if what the women claimed is true.

That's what's so incredible. 95% of people on this site treat him as guilty until proven innocent (and I'm not sure they'd even accept it if he was proven innocent). I think he did date girls aged 16-18 with whom he did not have sex (according to all of those stories he was quite respectful and never went beyond kissing). Those stories all fit together soundly, however the allegation that he raped a 14 year old has him displaying an entirely different behavior towards her than is seen in any of the other cases. It also has no evidence for it besides a yearbook that the accuser's lawyer won't allow a neutral party to check for authenticity.

Moore is leading in the RCP average again. It seems most Alabama voters aren't convinced. I think he will win narrowly. After that, the Senate should demand the yearbook and check its veracity. If Moore is guilty, I hope there's enough proof to give him prison time. If he's innocent, I hope people here will stop saying "Republicans elected a pedophile."

Moore's behavior post revelations does not imply innocence. He stayed off the campaign trail for 8 days, which is incredibly suspicious behavior for an innocent man. None of the accusers gain anything by lying, other than finally gaining the chance to be heard.
 

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If Jones does win, I do expect McConnell to put up a fuss about seating him even without legal standing.

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How long ago something occurred does not make it irrelevant nor does forgiveness. And for what it's worth, his son has been arrested 9 times and is only in his 20s, so one has to wonder what was going on in that "Christian" household. Moore is a sexual predator after all...

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I agree with the posters elsewhere that a Democrat wave is building.  That danger is the final reason to support Moore. The GOP has things to accomplish, especially regarding the courts.  We cannot allow another Democrat in now, who will try to screw up the works.  

I want the courts to at least give me and the country protection from some of the thinking of some hard left Democrats.

Pedophiles: at least they're not Democrats.

He is not a pedophile.  If they occurred, they were 40 years ago.  A person can be forgiven for acts 40 years.  The GOP if it wakes up can expel him he lied about the yearbook.  The proof would come handwriting analysis not DNA analysis.

A person cannot be forgiven for child molestation, especially when they refuse to admit what happened.

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(can't wait to get death points for this message. worth it.)

I don't think you should get any points against this message. Arkansas Yankee has gone way too far defended things that should not be defended.

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Republicans came back to help Akin in the end, so it's not like this is the first time they have dropped a candidate and then picked them back up in the end.

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Politifact's explanation to why it's false is so convoluted that most voters aren't going to even bother with reading it.

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Roy Moore is downright evil.

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She didn't forge anything, the signature is clearly his and she never stated that he dated the page. Second, there are numerous other accusers. It's pretty farfetched to say that this is all some massive conspiracy.