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DrScholl
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« on: August 29, 2015, 04:14:29 PM »

It was always going to be short lived.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2015, 06:00:20 PM »

He's had tons of exposure and his message has received widespread attention.

Not really. He's gotten only 1/5th the media coverage of Trump. The media has been really ignoring him in the hope he'll go away.


Bernie's a guy that enough Democrats believe can't win, and they don't want to hand over the WH to the GOP.  That's Bernie's problem.  It's also probably the reality of the situation.

In NH, he beats Trump by 9, while Mrs. inevitable only beats Trump by 2.

Once the "socialist" issue becomes more prominent, that will change, at least nationally.

It's really not even that will be the issue, the issue is that Sanders comes off as incredibly weak. If he let random troublemakers push him off stage, he'll let the Republican nominee run all over him in the debates and on the campaign trail. Being socialist is the least of his problems.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2015, 06:07:26 PM »
« Edited: August 29, 2015, 06:09:25 PM by Invisible Obama »

He's had tons of exposure and his message has received widespread attention.

Not really. He's gotten only 1/5th the media coverage of Trump. The media has been really ignoring him in the hope he'll go away.


Bernie's a guy that enough Democrats believe can't win, and they don't want to hand over the WH to the GOP.  That's Bernie's problem.  It's also probably the reality of the situation.

In NH, he beats Trump by 9, while Mrs. inevitable only beats Trump by 2.

Once the "socialist" issue becomes more prominent, that will change, at least nationally.

It's really not even that will be the issue, the issue is that Sanders comes off as incredibly weak. If he let random troublemakers push him off stage, he'll let the Republican nominee run all over him in the debates and on the campaign trail. Being socialist is the least of his problems.

I know that now that Hillary told BLM to screw off, the new talking points are that Sanders didn't stand up enough to BLM after the month of attacks that he was too mean to them.

But those weren't even his events. And he'll be fine debating Republicans.

So because it wasn't his event, it was okay for him to allow himself to be pushed off stage? That is not good campaigning at all. I'm not seeing much evidence that he could win a debate, but we will see what happens in October in the primary debate.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2015, 06:34:53 PM »

At Netroots, the moderator wasn't doing his job, and the Seattle situation was a lose-lose situation no matter what once the bullies got the mike. Sanders hasn't had an issue at any of his own events, only at other events.

It's really crazy how the argument has gone from Sanders doesn't understand BLM to Sanders shouldn't have let BLM take the stage at events that weren't his.

No one really knows what Black Lives Matter wants, so that's not what I'm talking about. My point is that you don't let hecklers take over.

What a Trumpish comment. Only billionaires think Sanders is weak. This is what people like and want. Honorable, decent people don't want the exuberant style of Trump, given to them on a golden plate, they want the humble style of Sanders. It was a genious move - very, very, very genious - to back down when BLM came along. What else should he have done? Starting a fist-fight?

There is a difference between honorable and weak. I very seriously doubt that Sanders staged that event in order to look good, he simply just did not know what to do. He shouldn't have stepped back and if they persisted, security should have been called.
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