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TheDeadFlagBlues
Junior Chimp
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« on: February 19, 2012, 02:23:05 AM »

Explain to me why I should be against it in secular terms in my personal life so I don't have to come off as a monster anymore when I say that I'm personally "pro-abortion" in many circumstances. I don't really want to have this view but I've found no convincing moral argument as to why abortion is immoral. Let's see if you guys can give me one.
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TheDeadFlagBlues
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2012, 02:31:27 AM »

This will end well...

Ok, let me just ask this for starters: Are you an atheist?

It might be a bad idea but it's entertaining and gives me food for thought. Tongue

Yes. Spirituality is non-existent in my life.
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TheDeadFlagBlues
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2012, 04:03:26 PM »

Explain to me why I should be against it in secular terms in my personal life so I don't have to come off as a monster anymore when I say that I'm personally "pro-abortion" in many circumstances. I don't really want to have this view but I've found no convincing moral argument as to why abortion is immoral. Let's see if you guys can give me one.

I am a virtue ethicist, but to avoid rambling about subjective attributes of character I think one is best off making a habit of and internalizing, I would say from a secular standpoint most abortions are not morally objectionable until sometime early in the third-trimester of a pregnancy - at which point one would do well to take into account that a developing fetus/baby/whatever can begin to feel pain, and perhaps to some extent experience emotions and think. Until a human life is viable, however, it seems dubious to me to regard it as having full personhood for non-spiritual reasons.

Incidentally, one might also have moral reservations about abortion for reasons concerning why a particular abortion is being performed. Depending on ones political convictions, there may come a point at which a woman's privilege to choose conflicts with foundational principles of society. There is not necessarily a good or bad direction to err in when it comes to such conflicts of conscience, but it is worth bearing in mind that some of the concerns that come into play are secular in nature.

This is more or less my viewpoint.

Am I the only one that views the "abortion is inconsequential to me because I'm a man" argument to be bunk? Abortion or a lack of abortion will have consequences for males, even if they're not directly impacted by the issue. A man could be in a relationship and have a dispute with his significant other over abortion and it would still be an important concern for him even if he wouldn't have to struggle with the hardships of actually bearing a child.

I feel like the "I'm a man" argument is a way to avoid responsibility.
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