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Question: Who would you vote for/who would win? Goldwater (O-CA) vs. Laki (I-BE)
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Goldwater
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« on: January 07, 2024, 10:44:53 PM »

I'll admit that Goldwater IRL would win in a landslide (in the US). That's not even up for debate. I'm however not very familiar with Goldwaters ideology, so if someone can explain that would be helpful. The name seems misleading.

Well, I have both of these quotes in my signature because I think they are both pretty accurate descriptions of me:
The result of a neocon and libertarian having a baby while drunk, and leaving it to be raised by hippie liberal wolves.
Muscular liberalism, but of a type where both terms have been taken (mostly) to their logical conclusion. Individual freedom in the social and economic spheres coupled with a will to assert this belief internationally. In effect, a Jacobin.

I don't really think my username is misleading, since Barry Goldwater himself was very liberal/libertarian on social issues, although I will admit that I am probably overall not quite as right wing as he was.


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Goldwater
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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2024, 11:06:44 PM »

I'll admit that Goldwater IRL would win in a landslide (in the US). That's not even up for debate. I'm however not very familiar with Goldwaters ideology, so if someone can explain that would be helpful. The name seems misleading.

Well, I have both of these quotes in my signature because I think they are both pretty accurate descriptions of me:
The result of a neocon and libertarian having a baby while drunk, and leaving it to be raised by hippie liberal wolves.
Muscular liberalism, but of a type where both terms have been taken (mostly) to their logical conclusion. Individual freedom in the social and economic spheres coupled with a will to assert this belief internationally. In effect, a Jacobin.

I don't really think my username is misleading, since Barry Goldwater himself was very liberal/libertarian on social issues, although I will admit that I am probably overall not quite as right wing as he was.

I have a hard time nailing/understanding your ideology. The quotes in the signature don't really help given it's a weird mix of several ideologies and i don't recall a lot of posts from you that 'stand out" or that I remember being a clear indicator of what you believe in and who you are.

Which is good it means i haven't noticed very controversial stuff too.

Fair enough. I suppose I don't make a whole lot of posts where I really go in depth with my beliefs. Tongue

I'm not really sure how to describe my ideology in terms that are both simple yet specific enough to accurately convey my thoughts. In general, my core motivation is based around the classically liberal/American libertarian definitions of individual liberty, but there are some instances where I think that the state and use of force is necessary to ensure those freedoms, when leads me to conclusions on certain issues that resemble something closer to social liberalism or neoconservatism than strict doctrine libertarianism.

I have no idea if what I just wrote actually made any sense. Tongue
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Goldwater
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2024, 11:20:42 PM »

I consider social liberalism and neocon very different things though (though arguably it describes a lot of modern politicians)

Yeah, that makes sense. I guess which one I seem closer to really just depends on which issues you place a higher priority on.
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Goldwater
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2024, 11:49:14 PM »

To be fair, i'm probably less critical of someone with a username "Goldwater" than with a red avatar because I would expect more from a D-aligned user. But you seem allright (with probably the same things i disagree on with blue dogs/libertarians/centrists on the forum with you).

It also probably worth noting that I use the recommend feature a lot, so there probably so some of my controversial views might have slipped under the radar because of that. Tongue
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Goldwater
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2024, 05:09:34 PM »

Today Goldwater basically would have been a Ted Cruz who never sold out his beliefs for Trump and stuck with opposing him. So it would have ended up with him getting primaried in 2018 by a Trumpist candidate funded by the Mercer family(which if you don't know the story, the Mercer Family threatened to revoke all support of Cruz in the future if he didnt support Trump).

Goldwater would have been more of a John Kasich Republican, actually. (Today, that is, if he were alive)

Coincidentally, I actually did vote for John Kasich in the 2016 Republican primaries. Tongue
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