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« Reply #100 on: March 20, 2013, 10:58:42 AM »
Rudd still sticking to the draft line, but didn't Gillard do the same in 2010? Just waiting for the numbers to appear. The real problem is policy and I haven't heard disagreement from Rudd on the taxes, media laws or anything else. Same as 2010.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/kevin-rudd-resisting-pressure-to-move-on-leadership/story-fn59niix-1226602044671
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« Reply #101 on: March 20, 2013, 05:00:40 PM »
Gillard being assured she has 55 votes "minimum." But everyone agrees the margin is dwindling. If Rudd wants it he'll have to break a factional dam or 2. No luck on that thus far. Then the media stuff will go down tomorrow.


http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/16410795/pm-has-numbers-to-beat-rudd/?cmp=twitter

As for taxes, that leaves the revenueless mining one.

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« Reply #102 on: March 20, 2013, 05:26:43 PM »
I don't disagree with you on that. But her chance will be vapourized in September anyways. As for 2001... on the Coalition side? From what I understand Costello was never remotely close. Feel free to correct me of course. Tongue
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« Reply #103 on: March 20, 2013, 06:20:29 PM »
Quote from: Secretary Polnut on March 20, 2013, 06:05:33 PM
Simon Crean was VERY honest in his media conference that just ended.

Basically he said the media games and deliberate destabilisation needs to stop and threw his lot in with Gillard.

But his position has always been that he supports the incumbent. Hardly news.
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« Reply #104 on: March 20, 2013, 06:48:34 PM »
There's a different story circulating about Crean: to quote Sir John A. Macdonald, he may be a "loose fish." Back Rudd, bring some key Gillardites over in exchange for Deep?

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/simon-crean-may-back-kevin-rudd-in-leadership-spill/story-e6freuy9-1226602015161
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« Reply #105 on: March 20, 2013, 08:54:48 PM »
Crean holding a presser in a few minutes.

Media bills are dead.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/labor-dumps-media-reform-package/story-fn59niix-1226602222708
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« Reply #106 on: March 20, 2013, 09:05:01 PM »
Crean calling for a ballot, all leadership positions being declared vacant. Said he'd run for deputy leader. Said the deadlock has to be broken. Rudd has to put his hand up. Not a personal decision. Told Gillard he'd do it.
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« Reply #107 on: March 20, 2013, 09:16:43 PM »
Supporting Rudd. Won't seek the Treasury but rather keep his current post. Not running as part of a joint ticket.
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« Reply #108 on: March 20, 2013, 09:23:41 PM »
Dastyari told NSW Right to unite against Gillard? Lights out, right?
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« Reply #109 on: March 20, 2013, 09:36:43 PM »
Albanese defecting too. She'll be at Yarralumla very soon.
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« Reply #110 on: March 20, 2013, 09:47:33 PM »
AWU still saying that they expect Gillard to hold on. She's meeting with Swan right now. And didn't at least one Indy say that without Gillard the pact was over? Which means dissolution.
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« Reply #111 on: March 20, 2013, 09:54:15 PM »
Some backbenchers have already signed a caucus petition.
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« Reply #112 on: March 20, 2013, 10:02:36 PM »
Marles also joining in. Smith and Shorten walking with Albanese. Have they gone too?
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« Reply #113 on: March 20, 2013, 10:07:07 PM »
But Rudd hasn't put his name forward yet with 90 minutes to go.
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« Reply #114 on: March 20, 2013, 10:19:24 PM »
Quote from: Platypus on March 20, 2013, 10:18:11 PM
So Gillard is gone, for sure, but is Rudd really going to be the replacement?

He hasn't nominated yet.
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« Reply #115 on: March 20, 2013, 10:26:38 PM »
Gillard not even answering the question, just taunting the Coalition.
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« Reply #116 on: March 20, 2013, 10:36:52 PM »
Both were bonfiring a bunch of strawmen. Dividing now.
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« Reply #117 on: March 20, 2013, 10:41:33 PM »
What exactly is he waiting for, and how much longer will nominations remain open?
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« Reply #118 on: March 20, 2013, 10:42:39 PM »
Motion failed.
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« Reply #119 on: March 20, 2013, 10:49:15 PM »
AFR said latest Gillard numbers were 58. Rumours are that Rudd won't move, dunno if that's true.
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« Reply #120 on: March 20, 2013, 10:58:29 PM »
Crean's been sacked. Elliott backing Rudd.
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« Reply #121 on: March 20, 2013, 11:07:23 PM »
Polnut: From Grauniad liveblog. But yeah, when a senior minister publicly calls for a coup they can't really expect to stay on with the incumbent. Tongue
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« Reply #122 on: March 20, 2013, 11:09:22 PM »
Confirmed from Crean's office.
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« Reply #123 on: March 20, 2013, 11:13:36 PM »
Swan reconfirms his Gillard support.
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« Reply #124 on: March 20, 2013, 11:17:59 PM »
ABC also saying too close to call.
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