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RogueBeaver
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« on: November 29, 2012, 08:06:53 PM »

A spinoff of Peter's UK thread. Votes for both parties' elections are OK.


Liberal

1966: Harold Holt
1968: Paul Hasluck
1969: Billy McMahon
1971: Billy McMahon
1974: Malcolm Fraser
1975: Malcolm Fraser
1982: Malcolm Fraser
1983: John Howard
1985: John Howard
1989: John Howard
1990: Peter Reith
1993: John Howard
1994: Alexander Downer
1995: John Howard
2007: Brendan Nelson
2008: Abstain
2009: Tony Abbott


ALP

1968: Jim Cairns
1977: Bill Hayden
1982: Bob Hawke
1983: Bob Hawke
June 1991: Paul Keating
December 1991: Paul Keating
2001: Simon Crean
2003: Mark Latham
2006: Kim Beazley
2010: Julia Gillard
2012: Kevin Rudd
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2012, 09:13:02 PM »

For the ALP I was mostly being mischievous, Hawke/Keating aside. Regarding the Liberals, in hindsight some decisions are even more prescient or flat-out stupid. Replacing Howard with Peacock, picking Hewson over Reith to face Keating, reelecting Hewson over Howard, etc.
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2012, 09:29:49 PM »

Where can you find info on these (i.e. who the candidates were, how many votes each one got, etc)? Wikipedia only has info on a handful of them.

I got them from Wiki, OurCampaigns, and Howard's memoir. I know more about the Liberals than the ALP, so here are the lesser known Lib ones.

1967-8: DPM John McEwen exercises a Country veto on McMahon. The battle is between Hasluck and Gorton, Gorton campaigns aggressively and publicly, a first. Like Maudling in the UK, Hasluck was the initial frontrunner but blew it because he didn't actively campaign.

1969: From Howard's memoir. Gorton nearly blew the election and got multiple challenges, Howard doesn't say by whom.

1971: Gorton is blamed for a Senate massacre in 1970, continues FUBARing. Challenged by McMahon, ballot tied 33 apiece. Accounts differ as to whether he resigned or used his casting vote to oust himself.

1974: Fraser challenged Snedden. Howard claims the vote was 36-26 Snedden, though this was the last time the Liberals didn't publicly release numbers so we'll never know for sure.

1975: Fraser beats Snedden, IIRC 37-27.

1982: Fraser is challenged by Peacock, beats him 2-1 or 54-27. Howard becomes deputy leader here, with Fraser's endorsement.

1985: Peacock resigns when Howard is reelected deputy leader. Howard wins easily.

1990: Peacock resigns, Hewson beats Reith 62-13.

1993: Howard challenges Hewson, Hewson wins 47-30. In this election Costello loses his first run for deputy (made vacant by Reith's resignation) 45-33.

1994: Downer challenges Hewson, beats him 43-36.

1995: Howard acclaimed... with a lot of elbow grease.
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RogueBeaver
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2012, 06:29:59 PM »

Anyhoo, how would you have voted, Smid?
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RogueBeaver
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2013, 08:10:15 PM »

How'd you find the data for the early ones?  Wikipedia's a dud on this.

OurCampaigns and Howard's memoirs. Maybe in other books or Google News you could find data on the '60s contests, because the data certainly wasn't publicly released.

1966 was unanimous for Holt so far as I know. 1968 was contested but Pru Goward's Liberals documentary has a clip saying that the ballot only took 15 minutes, so it probably wasn't all that close. Gorton started canvassing even before Holt's funeral, and during the service itself. Don't have any numbers on Labor '68 or Liberals '69. I know Whitlam nearly lost in '68 and Gorton '69 was a bit closer than '68 because if you watch the documentary, the Liberal whip's tone and facial expression when he simply says "The PM was reelected" suggests a closer vote.
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RogueBeaver
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2014, 09:01:55 PM »

You changed your mind on last year's ALP spill, Polnut?
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