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« on: October 08, 2014, 10:10:34 AM »

The internet libertarians have already hit the comment section to talk about the QE and the ShadowStats and the liberty.
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2014, 10:29:54 AM »

What great irony at the end there. We should invite this man to post on the Atlas.
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2014, 11:02:49 AM »

It's not certain that a lot of those things would have happened with anybody.

The problem with McCain and Romney, even if they aren't completely horrible, is that they empower HP by being in office. Even if Romney wasn't a dedicated extremist on the issue of abortion or evolution-creationism, the Department of Education and HHS would be filled with Religious Right nutbags right now shilling abstinence to our youth if he were President.  Even if Mitt is kind of a nice guy, he would be signing bills that had Louie Gohmert and Jim Inhofe's disgusting hands on them.

Until the Teabaggers are neutered completely by the GOP establishment, any Democratic President is infinitely more successful even if they do absolutely nothing, because they prevent an absolutely terrible something. It keeps the GOP in quarantine until they get better.

This is why Dems need to stop dreaming and start supporting Hillary Clinton. It's the 8th inning of the WS against the Nutbags and it's time to call Mariano Rivera out from the pen to pitch the save.  After 16 years of Democratic rule, maybe we can finally get a Republican Party to emerge that we can be proud of existing.
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2014, 10:08:22 AM »

In 20-30 years, Obama will be widely regarded by most Americans (especially once the teabaggers die of old age) as one of the great presidents, certainly by historians.

The president who borrowed $10T to make America suck less. Quite a legacy.

Two of our most beloved Presidents FDR and Reagan were also Great Borrowers.
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2014, 11:57:49 AM »

I do not see Obama being known as a great president. He has not got Americas invovled in enarly enough wars. The wars he did get America involved in (such as Libya) were short, professionally handled and not nearly enough quirky anecdotes were created. Also, no historian will look kindly on a president who actually thinks the U.S. millitary is not the answer to every foreign policy question. No, Obama will rank the middle of the pack and chill out with Gerald Ford and Chester Arthur. That should be a good conversation, though.

Obama's image makes him impossible to be middle of the pack. He's too memorable of a human being. He's either worst or first, and all the people who say worst are racist old whites who will be dead when the history books get written, young libertarians who will forget about him and move on to vilify the next President, and young white trash with 0 chance of ever gaining the academic credentials to be an historian.
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2014, 12:12:48 PM »

Two of our most beloved Presidents FDR and Reagan were also Great Borrowers.

They were the first of their kind. I guess you could say the same about Obama, if you want to play the race card.

The only way he will be recognized as great is if Democrats continue to polarize the population on issues of race, and anyone who disagrees about Obama's merit is publicly shamed as a racist.

So yes, then.
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2014, 03:12:34 PM »

There's nothing racist about saying blacks and Latinos vote Democrat. The way you say it is 100% racist, but that's because you're a racist who sees everything through a racist lens.

White urban voters vote the same as black and Hispanic urban voters. The only difference is most whites are suburban/rural while most blacks and hispanics are urban.

Urbanites see the benefits of the government first hand with public transportation, public schools, public libraries, etc. Urban culture is generally aligned with Democratic Party policy.
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2014, 10:58:26 PM »

There's nothing racist about saying blacks and Latinos vote Democrat. The way you say it is 100% racist, but that's because you're a racist who sees everything through a racist lens.

White urban voters vote the same as black and Hispanic urban voters. The only difference is most whites are suburban/rural while most blacks and hispanics are urban.

Urbanites see the benefits of the government first hand with public transportation, public schools, public libraries, etc. Urban culture is generally aligned with Democratic Party policy.

The thriving progressive urban metropolises of South Texas, West Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Southern Colorado, and the Inland Empire. The progressive cosmopolitan powerhouses in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and South Carolina.

How can you be from New Mexico, and know so little about minority demography?

You've clearly never been here.
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