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« Reply #50 on: September 24, 2014, 04:59:42 PM »

They'll you not to worry about it, trust God, don't do anything.
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« Reply #51 on: September 26, 2014, 02:11:45 PM »

You need to send out applications this weekend. Do not waste it watching football and napping.
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« Reply #52 on: September 26, 2014, 04:59:19 PM »

RIP CAD(D) job.
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« Reply #53 on: September 26, 2014, 05:23:35 PM »

Bushie, is it safe to say CAD isn't for  you?

Attendance-wise, you stuck to this job far more any you ever had and it didn't end up helping you on performance. Despite you saying it was "lack of focus," you fixed that focus problem and your boss still was not impressed with your work.

If you disagree and still want to work with CAD, I'd say your only shot is to drop the TV watching and hit AutoCAD and textbooks in your free time because it doesn't sound like you can get by on natural talent.
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« Reply #54 on: September 26, 2014, 05:29:37 PM »

The quality of work was obviously bad. I don't buy clock watching was even mentioned on the performance review. His boss expressed frustration at him getting concepts.

Whether Bushie admits this remains to be seen...
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« Reply #55 on: September 26, 2014, 10:10:46 PM »

An experienced new hire? Yeah, you're getting pushed out. He'll probably be at your desk on Tuesday.

Be as cordial as you can and maybe he'll feel bad enough to offer himself as a reference. Don't expect it or ask for it, but just remember to be nice and understanding.
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« Reply #56 on: September 27, 2014, 09:47:06 AM »
« Edited: September 27, 2014, 09:52:25 AM by King »

Guys, again, I have no reason to give up on myself or think of myself as less than normal society.  You guys think that, but I don't.

You're the one demeaning people as you apparently think people who work at WalMart, UStorIt, and blue collar jobs, while probably also raising kids and cooking meals for them and themselves, are beneath you and normal society.

You need to take a job with 0 responsibility because that's all you could handle or have interest in handling. The blueprints for our nations best engineering aren't done by "clockwatchers." You aren't a CAD guy.

You are the one making yourself unhappy. If you just let go of the grandeur, as Joe said, and took a super easy job where there was so little responsibility that you could get away with reading the Bible and posting here during your shift, you would be so much happier.
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« Reply #57 on: September 27, 2014, 10:15:22 AM »

I'm looking at jobs in Tulsa right now and, honestly, it only makes me realize that Bushie is disabled and unfit for work. I'm sorry man, but I have to call it as I see it.

He can't cook.
He can't interact with customers.
He can't stand for long periods of time.
He can't lift 70 lbs.
He can't work overnight.
He's not creative.
He's not a self-starter.
He doesn't display leadership skills.

There's literally no job Bushie can perform at a high level with all those above characteristics. The closest I can find is that Tulsa Public Schools are looking for Bus Drivers, but I'm pretty sure his Tourette's would prevent him from getting the necessary license to drive a bus.
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« Reply #58 on: September 27, 2014, 10:57:25 AM »

Bushie, your employer was a small business run by a senior citizen that hired you after 90 minutes. You aren't going to get a fairer, more understanding shake, and a better teacher.  This wasn't a job at Lockheed Martin out of a rookie drafter's league.

You're not going to make it somewhere else.
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« Reply #59 on: September 27, 2014, 11:07:28 AM »

If you were a pretty darn good drafter, you wouldn't be getting cut. It doesn't matter what you think of your work, it's what others think only.

If I recall, your drafting job here was for AC installation. This was as low risk work of a CAD job as you could get. You weren't helping build bridges here. There's no way "pace of improvement" was too high of a standard here. All of your coworkers were hired in the same fashion as you. Are they all brilliant savant engineers who improved at a remarkable pace? No, they are probably about average at the work. That puts you at below average.

And if you couldn't improve at a fast pace and knew it, what the hell were you doing all these months when you had AutoCAD and CAD textbooks at home to make up for your struggles?

I know what I can do.  I can do drafting.  You're not going to convince me otherwise, so you might as well save your breath.

Fine, prove me wrong, but in order to do that you're actually going to have to work harder. You need to study AutoCAD every day you are unemployed and perhaps every day after work once you get employed as well.
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« Reply #60 on: September 27, 2014, 11:11:47 AM »

Wait what, why is a job as a security job "abnormal" now?

Bushie sees himself as a suave businessman who is going to become filthy rich in the lucrative world of computer drafting. He's no security guard.
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« Reply #61 on: September 27, 2014, 02:29:33 PM »

Except he doesn't need the money. He needs enough to not bleed his parents dry.

At low wage, he can pay his rent and buy some groceries. If he needs anything outside of those means, his parents will gladly buy it for him as a gift.
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« Reply #62 on: September 27, 2014, 04:05:11 PM »
« Edited: September 27, 2014, 04:13:46 PM by King »

There's a difference between being laid off and getting fired in the training period as an entry level employee after being a C student in your 6 month certificate course at a community college.

Laid off is a term for people well into the careers that are victims of company downsizing. According to you, the company is expanding, moving to new offices, hiring more new employees. They are not downsizing. They have plenty of money to give an employee of your level. You are getting fired.

You need to stop sugarcoating your life to yourself. You are getting fired at CAD and you need to either start studying and, yes, give up all your free time, or find a new line of work.
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« Reply #63 on: September 27, 2014, 04:45:14 PM »

Yes, your attendance was great and you still got fired. That doesn't happen to a "pretty darn good" drafter.

You have a lot of work to do. You need to start studying your CAD.
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« Reply #64 on: September 27, 2014, 05:34:11 PM »

I may listen to music, but very softly, and not when I'm talking with my boss or co-workers.

I hope you use headphones.
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« Reply #65 on: September 27, 2014, 06:57:53 PM »

Bushie, the day your boss yelled at you and was "cranky," you said he kept trying to explain something to you and stormed out saying "you don't get it."

That's one glimpse you've shown us. But to me that says 0% attention to detail was the problem 100% fundamental lack of understanding a concept. If you just don't know what you're really looking at, it won't matter how hard you pay attention, you won't see what is wrong with it.
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« Reply #66 on: September 27, 2014, 07:06:20 PM »

For the entire 8 weeks, detail was the biggest factor in my performance.  My boss acknowledged I finally started getting the concepts.  He says I've made progress, just not enough.  So, I lose this job.  So what?  I'm going to take what I started doing well at the end and hone those skills and come back even stronger.

Finally started getting concepts? You already graduated from school. You should've known the concepts on day one.

It's fine that you want to continue with CAD but don't claim you're at all good at it. You're slow picking up concepts. You show poor attention to detail. You're a huge burden to any employer. You weren't some intern, but were hired as a full time employee and you performed horribly. You have to acknowledge this in order to actually improve.

And again, your employer was not some huge corporation churning through performance charts and workers. He was an elderly small businessman expanding and being kind enough to give you an opportunity. You will NOT meet a more understanding boss and good paying entry level situation.

Lord help you if your next potential employer calls him as a reference.
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« Reply #67 on: September 27, 2014, 10:02:48 PM »

Good advice for workers:  be first to work, last to leave, no music, head down, don't watch clock, show up every day, don't suck.

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« Reply #68 on: September 27, 2014, 11:29:51 PM »

Any job where other people's lives are at risk are not a job I want Jeff to have. I doubt he could stay standing long enough to safety flag in an oil field anyway.
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« Reply #69 on: September 28, 2014, 11:07:40 AM »

Yeah Bacon King really trashed him with that sensible advice about how to rise fast and make good money at WalMart.
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« Reply #70 on: September 28, 2014, 11:19:17 AM »

The only one trashing your CAD abilities is your soon to be ex-employer, a man with over 50 years drafting experience.  We're just pointing out that he's trashing you, since you seem oblivious to it.

You're a great drafter  who doesn't pay attention to detail and I'm a great playwrite with no ear for dialogue.
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« Reply #71 on: September 28, 2014, 11:26:36 AM »

That's fine Bushie.  Work at becoming a drafter. But you are NOT a good drafter. A great skilled worker can do what he wants short screwing the boss's wife and not get fired.  Someone whose talent isn't valued gets canned on trumped up charges like clock watching.

It's ok to not be good at something as long as you put the work in off the clock to improve.
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« Reply #72 on: September 28, 2014, 01:05:08 PM »

I readily admit I've been lazy outside the office and that's partly the reason I'm likely being let go.  I know things have got to change in many areas if I want a successful career in any field, not just CAD.

So then why did you blast us this morning for telling you this?
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« Reply #73 on: September 28, 2014, 01:57:00 PM »


Bushie will come across that in Bible study one of these years
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« Reply #74 on: September 28, 2014, 07:13:48 PM »

Like Al, I don't think enough attention has been given to the fact that Bushie is apparently some sort of Rainman-esque savant???

But what can we do with his photographic memory? Only job I can think of is detective on an 80s TV drama.
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