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Emsworth
Junior Chimp
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« on: July 11, 2005, 02:00:36 PM »

Basically, then, the marriage of John of Gaunt to Catherine Swynford did not legitmise their three children (the Beauforts), who were born by Catherine was he was his mistress; in which case, the Tudor legitimacy is very tenuous indeed
Indeed, that would be a valid analysis of the law. But the point was moot in any event, as Henry VII's claim to the throne was conquest. He could have also claimed the Crown Marital by right of his wife, Elizabeth of York.
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Emsworth
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2005, 02:21:12 PM »

That is quite correct. Even if their claim was tenuous, it was recognized by an Act of Parliament, which overruled everything else.
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Emsworth
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2005, 02:30:20 PM »

Very true. In fact, I like the Tudors, the two Henry's and Elizabeth anyway
Yes, the convenience of Acts of Parliament...

Of course, Acts of Parliament were themselves ignored on several occasions; James I, for instance, should never have become King according to the law.
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Emsworth
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2005, 07:04:24 AM »

Very true. In fact, I like the Tudors, the two Henry's and Elizabeth anyway
Yes, the convenience of Acts of Parliament...

Of course, Acts of Parliament were themselves ignored on several occasions; James I, for instance, should never have become King according to the law.
Why wouldn't James I have had a right to the throne?
An Act of Parliament passed during the reign of Henry VIII allowed Henry to determine the line of succession in his will. According to the will, the descendants of Margaret Tudor (Queen of Scotland) were excluded. The rightful heir according to the law was therefore Lady Anne Stanley, daughter of the Earl of Derby. James, however, had a stronger claim by inheritance, and an army, so Lady Anne was merely ignored.
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Emsworth
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2005, 09:37:17 AM »

I thought the acts of Henry were repealed?
IIRC, the only major provision repealed before James I's accession was the one declaring Mary illegitimate. (Elizabeth did not bother to legitimize herself ex post facto.) Henry's will, I believe, remained valid.
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