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feeblepizza
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Political Matrix
E: 4.45, S: -0.26

« on: July 16, 2010, 11:10:17 AM »
« edited: July 16, 2010, 11:14:57 AM by Nick Allman for President 2032 »

1961-1969: John F. Kennedy/Lyndon Johnson (D)
                                           /Hubert H. Humphrey, Jr. (D)
1969-1977: Robert F. Kennedy/Martin Luther King, Jr. (D)1
                                                /Ed Muskie (D)

1977-1981: Ronald Reagan1/Richard Schweiker (R)
1981-1989: Richard Schweiker/Oliver North (R)

1989-1993: Michael Dukakis/Lloyd Bentsen (D)
1993-2001: Al Gore, Jr./Mike Epsy (D)

2001-2009: John McCain/Goerge W. Bush (R)
2009-present: George W. Bush/Colin Powell (R)

1Assassinated
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feeblepizza
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Political Matrix
E: 4.45, S: -0.26

« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2010, 12:48:56 PM »

POTUS List -
1961-1969: Richard Nixon (R)
1969-1977: Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (R)
1977-1981: Jimmy Carter (D)
1981: Ronald Reagan (R) assassinated
1981-1989: Gerald Ford (R)
1989-1997: Bob Dole (R)
1997-2005: Al Gore (D)
2005-present: John McCain (R)

VPOTUS List -
1961-1969: Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (R)
1969-1977: Ronald Reagan (R)
1977-1981: Walter Mondale (D)
1981: Gerald Ford (R)
1981-1985: Vacant
1985-1989: Ben Fernandez (R)
1989-1996: Bob Packwood (R) resigned
1996-1997: Vacant
1997-2005: Joe Biden (D)
2005-present: Mitt Romney (R)

Losing Tickets (in the spirit of Masked Pickle Smiley ) -
1960: John Kennedy/Lyndon Johnson (D)
1964: Hubert Humphrey/Robert Kennedy (D)
1968: Lyndon Johnson/George McGovern (D)
1972: George McGovern/Thomas EagletonSargent Shriver (D)
1976: Ronald Reagan/Richard Shweiker (R)
1980: Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale (R)
1984: John Glenn/Alan Cranston (D)
1988: Gary Hart/Al Gore (D)
1992: Paul Tsongas/Bill Clinton (D)
1996: Lamar Alexander/Phil Gramm (R)
2000: George W. Bush/Orrin Hatch (R)
2004: Joe Biden/Bill Richardson (D)
2008: Howard Dean/Barack Obama (D)

Election 2012 (just for s**ts and giggles) -
Mitt Romney/Mike Huckabee (R)
Barack Obama/Bill Richardson (D)
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feeblepizza
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Political Matrix
E: 4.45, S: -0.26

« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2011, 08:00:20 PM »

JFK isn't assassinated so LBJ is never elected, so here's the list from then on:

John F. Kennedy (D) (1961-1969)
Hubert H. Humphrey (D) (1969-1977)
Edmund Muskie (D) (1977-1981)
Ronald Reagan (R) (1981-1989)
Ron Paul (L) (1989-1997)
Richard Lugar (R)* (1997-2001)
Lamar Alexander (R)** (2001-2005)
George Pataki (R) (2005-2009)
Evan Bayh (D) (2009-Present)

* = Challanged in Primary by Alexander, drops out of race.
** = Does not run for re-election, endorses Pataki.

...

^^^^ That list is reminiscent of a GPORTER timeline.
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feeblepizza
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Political Matrix
E: 4.45, S: -0.26

« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2011, 08:05:19 PM »

I guess I forgot to mention that it's a little unrealistic Tongue

It would make for a hell of a timeline Wink
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feeblepizza
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Political Matrix
E: 4.45, S: -0.26

« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2011, 09:48:40 PM »

I love making these list Smiley
This one is not as realistic as my other ones.

1948-Earl Warren/Dwight Eisenhower
1952-Earl Warren/Dwight Eisenhower

1956-Hubert Humphrey/John Kennedy
1960-Hubert Humphrey/John Kennedy

1964-Barry Goldwater/William Scranton
1968-Barry Goldwater/William Scranton

1972-John Kennedy/Henry Jackson
1976-John Kennedy/Henry Jackson
1980-Henry Jackson/Mo Udall*
1981-Mo Udall/Birch Bayh
1984-Mo Udall/Birch Bayh
1988-Mo Udall/Barbara Jordan

1992-Lamar Alexander/Pete Wilson
1996-Lamar Alexander/Pete Wilson

2000-Bill Bradley/Bob Kerrey
2004-Bill Bradley/Bob Kerrey

2008-Bob Riley/Mitch Daniels

At least Barry Goldwater was President. Tongue

I figured some of Kennedys skeletons in the closet would be found. I have a question, do they do collaborative list here. For example, one might post 1960-2012, and someone fills in a slot per turn?
Like this
http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=162624

Those were quite fun, we need to start a thread doing that

I'll be open to it.
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feeblepizza
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Political Matrix
E: 4.45, S: -0.26

« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2011, 10:37:32 PM »

Nixon Chooses Hatfield
Presidents/Vice-Presidents
37. Richard M Nixon (R-NY)/Mark Hatfield (R-OR), John Connally (R-TX) 1969-1974
38. John Connally (R-TX)/Gerald R Ford (R-MI) 1974-1981

39. Edward M Kennedy (D-MA)/Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr. (D-CA) 1981
40. Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr. (D-CA)/Walter F Mondale (D-MN) 1981-1989

41. Robert Dole (R-KS)/Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL) 1989-1993
42. Paul Tsongas (D-MA)/David Boren (D-OK) 1993-1996
43. David Boren (D-OK)/Ann Richards (D-TX) 1996-1997
44. Ann Richards (D-TX)/John F Kerry (D-MA) 1997-2001

45. Elizabeth Dole (R-SC)/John Engler (R-MI) 2001-2009
46. Bill RIchardson (D-NM)/Michael Bloomberg (D-NY)

Losing Tickets
1972: Henry M Jackson (D-WA)/James E Carter (D-GA); Eugene McCarthy (I-MN)/Mike Gravel (I-AK)
1976: George McGovern (D-SD)/Terry Sanfrod (D-SC)
1980: Ronald W Reagan (R-CA)/Robert Dole (R-KS), Charles Matthias (I-MD)/Edward Brooke (I-MA)
1984: George Bush (R-TX)/Jack Kemp (R-NY)
1988: Walter F Mondale (D-MN)/Ernest Hollings (D-SC)
1992: Robert Dole (R-KS)/Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL), Ron Paul (L-TX)/Barry M Goldwater (L-CA)
1996: Jack Kemp (R-NY)/John Ellis Bush (R-FL)
2000: John F Kerry (D-MA)/Zell Miller (D-GA)
2004: Howard Deant (D-VT)/Bill Richardson (D-NM)
2008: John Ellis Bush (R-FL)/Judd Gregg (R-NM)
Why did Hatfield leave?
I would say Nixon chose someone more conservative b/c the base was moving away from him and towards someone like Ashbrook.
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feeblepizza
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Political Matrix
E: 4.45, S: -0.26

« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2011, 04:42:41 PM »

1981-1987: Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H.W. Bush (R-TX)
1987-1997: George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Howard Baker (R-TN)

1997-2005: Bill Clinton (D-AR)/John Kerry (D-MA)
2005-present: John McCain (R-AZ)/George W. Bush (R-TX)

1980: Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN)
1984: Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Geraldine Ferarro (D-NY)
1988: Paul Tsongas (D-MA)/Bill Clinton (D-AR)
1992: Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Jerry Brown (D-NC)

1996: Lamar Alexandar (R-TN)/John Engler (R-MI)
2000: John Engler (R-MI)/Richard Cheney (R-WY)

2004: John Kerry (D-MA)/John Edwards (D-NC)
2008: John Edwards (D-NC)/Barack Obama (D-IL)


Reagan - In 1987, President Reagan resigned after revealing that he had been diagnosed with terminal stomach cancer. He died of that same cancer in 1991, at the age of 80.
Bush - In 1992, amidst a recession, President Bush won a third term by a close margin over Arkansas Governor and 1988 VP nominee Bill Clinton, who was nominated by the Democrats again in 1996.
McCain - In 2008, the 72 year old President was easily reelected after it was revealed that Democratic nominee John Edwards had fathered a lovechild. Edwards confessed to the allegations, but refused to resign from the ticket, citing Grover Cleveland's 1884 victory despite admitting that he had fathered a lovechild.
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feeblepizza
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Political Matrix
E: 4.45, S: -0.26

« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2011, 05:14:28 PM »

42. Bill Clinton (D-AR): 1993-1998
43. Al Gore (D-TN): 1998-2005

44. George W. Bush (R-TX): 2005-2009
45. Barack Obama (D-IL): 2009-2011
46. Evan Bayh (D-IN): 2011-present


42. Clinton was elected in 1992 with Al Gore as his VP. His term included tax increases, a failed universal healthcare proposal, a ban on assault weapons, and the ratification of NAFTA. In 1998, Clinton was impeached by the U.S. Congress on charges of perjury and obsruction of justice relating to the Paula Jones case and the Monica Lewinsky affair.
43. Gore took office in 1998 after President Clinton was impeached. During his term, he kept the economy on the good side and brokered a landmark peace treaty between Israel the Palestinian Authority. He was reelected over George W. Bush in 2000 in a close and controversial election centering around Florida, with Joe Lieberman as his VP. During his second term, he invaded Afghanistan as a response to terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001. The war and the economy were stagnant come 2004, when he was running for a third term.
44. Bush was elected over President Gore in 2004, with George Pataki as his VP. During his term he strengthened the economy via major tax cuts to the middle class. However, the war in Afghanistan got progressively worse under his leadership. In 2008, a troop surge was enacted in order to save the war effort before the elections were underway. He faced a limp primary challenge from the antiwar Congressman Ron Paul.
45. Obama was elected in 2008, becoming the first African-American Commander-in-Chief. The major focus of his term was withdrawing troops from Afghanistan after declaring the war a failure. He did so, but was assassinated by an Al Qaeda operative in 2011 while addressing the few remaining U.S. toops there. Other major accomplishments include the passage of a universal healthcare bill in March 2010.
46. Bayh took office in January of 2011 after President Obama was assassinated. The first test of his term was the massive earthquake in Japan in March. He sent billions in aid.
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feeblepizza
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Political Matrix
E: 4.45, S: -0.26

« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2011, 04:59:19 PM »

37. Richard Nixon (R-CA) 1969-1974
38. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) 1974-1985

39. Walter Mondale (D-MN) 1985-1989
40. George Bush (R-TX) 1989-1993
41. Mario Cuomo (D-NY) 1993-1995
42. Bill Clinton (D-AR) 1995-2005

43. John McCain (R-AZ) 2005-2009
44. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) 2009-present
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feeblepizza
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Political Matrix
E: 4.45, S: -0.26

« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2011, 05:02:08 PM »

37. Richard Nixon (R-CA) 1969-1974
38. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) 1974-1985

39. Walter Mondale (D-MN) 1985-1989
40. George Bush (R-TX) 1989-1993
41. Mario Cuomo (D-NY) 1993-1995
42. Bill Clinton (D-AR) 1995-2005

43. John McCain (R-AZ) 2005-2009
44. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) 2009-present
Details -
Nixon replaced Agnew with Reagan and Reagan was reelected twice after Nixon resigned.
In 1995, Ted Kazinsky assassinated President Cuomo after scrapping a plan to attack federal buildings in Oklahoma City. Vice-President Clinton succeeded him and was reelected twice, like Reagan.
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feeblepizza
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Political Matrix
E: 4.45, S: -0.26

« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2011, 07:54:34 PM »

Cathcon, these lists are always hackish, whether intentionally or unintentionally.
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feeblepizza
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E: 4.45, S: -0.26

« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2011, 08:19:57 PM »

Cathcon, these lists are always hackish, whether intentionally or unintentionally.

I guess so. I'd like to think I've gotten better since then, though...

Yes, you certainly have. Would you have put John Anderson in the Oval Office when you first wrote the INCREDIBLY HACKISH scenario?
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feeblepizza
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Political Matrix
E: 4.45, S: -0.26

« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2011, 08:40:25 AM »

Cathcon, these lists are always hackish, whether intentionally or unintentionally.

I guess so. I'd like to think I've gotten better since then, though...

Yes, you certainly have. Would you have put John Anderson in the Oval Office when you first wrote the INCREDIBLY HACKISH scenario?

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make...

I mean you're not a hopeless right wing hack anymore.
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feeblepizza
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Political Matrix
E: 4.45, S: -0.26

« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2011, 08:34:07 PM »

I always keep wanting to make more lists and have a couple of ideas, but half-way through making the list, I look at my most recent part of the list and ask myself "am I really proud of that?" and the list fails.
I always peter off for fear that I'm being unrealistic.
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feeblepizza
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Political Matrix
E: 4.45, S: -0.26

« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2011, 06:12:23 PM »

Presidents
36. Lyndon Johnson (D-TX) 1963-1971*
37. Robert Kennedy (D-NY) 1971-1973**
38. Fred Harris (D-OK) 1973-?


*Died of a heart attack
**Was unable to run for reelection during the general election due to a paralyzing gunshot wound inflicted on the campaign trail

Vice-Presidents
38. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) 1965-1969
39. Robert Kennedy (D-NY) 1969-1971*
40. Fred Harris (D-OK) 1971-1973**
41. Birch Bayh (D-IN) 1973-?


*Ascended to the presidency after LBJ's death
**Was nominated for President in RFK's stead after RFK was inflicted with a paralyzing gunshot wound



From my 1968 timeline so far Smiley.
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feeblepizza
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E: 4.45, S: -0.26

« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2011, 03:15:06 PM »

Presidents
36. Lyndon Johnson (D-TX) 1963-1971*
37. Robert Kennedy (D-NY) 1971-1973**
38. Fred Harris (D-OK) 1973-1977

Richard Nixon (R-CA) 1977-?

*Died of a heart attack
**Was unable to run for reelection during the general election due to a paralyzing gunshot wound inflicted on the campaign trail

Vice-Presidents
38. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) 1965-1969
39. Robert Kennedy (D-NY) 1969-1971*
40. Fred Harris (D-OK) 1971-1973**
41. Birch Bayh (D-IN) 1973-1977

42. Gerald Ford (R-MI) 1977-?

*Ascended to the presidency after LBJ's death
**Was nominated for President in RFK's stead after RFK was inflicted with a paralyzing gunshot wound



From my 1968 timeline so far Smiley.
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