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feeblepizza
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E: 4.45, S: -0.26

« on: July 28, 2010, 08:57:32 PM »

If Mit Romney wins the nomination in 2012 and runs on fiscally conservative principles, I could see Obama actually losing 5-10 percentage points in VT.

ROFL Fail.

A new englander taking on a fiscally irresponsible president with a shaky economy?  If anything, 57-62% of VT would be quite generous for Obama.

First of all, I doubt the economy will be shaky in 2012. Secondly, the deficit will be much smaller in 2012 than in 2009. Third of all, Obama could say that he inherited the huge deficit from Bush and that the last three Republican Presidents were extremely fiscally irresponsible. I could actually see Obama hitting 70% in VT in 2012, or maybe even 75% with Sarah Palin as the GOP nominee.

Wow you're smoking something!!! -
1. The economy is in no shape to recover anytime in the next two years (at best unemployment will be at Cool
2. Bush tripled the deficit in EIGHT YEARS while Obama accumulated more debt than the previous 43 Presidents COMBINED from his FIRST BUDGET
3. Probably
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feeblepizza
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Posts: 2,910
United States


Political Matrix
E: 4.45, S: -0.26

« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2010, 11:39:50 AM »

If Mit Romney wins the nomination in 2012 and runs on fiscally conservative principles, I could see Obama actually losing 5-10 percentage points in VT.

ROFL Fail.

A new englander taking on a fiscally irresponsible president with a shaky economy?  If anything, 57-62% of VT would be quite generous for Obama.

First of all, I doubt the economy will be shaky in 2012. Secondly, the deficit will be much smaller in 2012 than in 2009. Third of all, Obama could say that he inherited the huge deficit from Bush and that the last three Republican Presidents were extremely fiscally irresponsible. I could actually see Obama hitting 70% in VT in 2012, or maybe even 75% with Sarah Palin as the GOP nominee.

Wow you're smoking something!!! -
1. The economy is in no shape to recover anytime in the next two years (at best unemployment will be at 8%)
2. Bush tripled the deficit in EIGHT YEARS while Obama accumulated more debt than the previous 43 Presidents COMBINED from his FIRST BUDGET
3. Probably

Even if unemployment will be at 8% in 2012 (and that's very possible), that's still going to be an improvement from the over 10% unemployment rate in late 2009. Unemployment will probably be decreasing throughout 2011 and 2012 and most people would feel that while unemployment is still high, Obama turned the economy around and thus deserves another term. As for Obama's debt, those were projections for the next 10 years. Right now, the debt is just 15-20% more than when Obama entered office. Obama didn't accumulate more debt than all 43 Presidents combined yet, and projections can and often do change. And George W. Bush actually did accumulate (or almost accumulated) as much debt as all his predecessors combined, since the debt doubled under Bush's watch.

I don't think that he has a snowball's chance in hell of being reelected with an 8% unemployment rate, due to the fact that when he was trying to cram the stimulus down our throats, he stated that the unemployment WOULD NOT RISE ABOVE 8%. Right now, it's 9.5%, and will reach 10% before we go back down again in 2011-2012
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feeblepizza
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Posts: 2,910
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Political Matrix
E: 4.45, S: -0.26

« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2010, 02:47:57 PM »

You guys realise that feeblepizza (?) is eleven years old and there's no point trying to have a rational argument with the kid, right?

I'm 12 =P
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