Swedish election, 2018: Political Impasse, Löfven loses confidence vote

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Rooting hard for the Social Democrats.

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Go SD.

Yes go Social Democrats!

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Go SD.

Yes go Social Democrats!

I am for the other SD

I know, I was being cute

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Former Sweden Democratic Youth leader Gustav Kasselstrand founded a new party to the right of the Sweden Democrats, named Alternative for Sweden (Alternativ för Sverige). Under Kasselstrand's leadership, SD cut all ties with Sweden Democratic Youth because they had become too radical for SD.

Some consider Kasselstrand's move to form a new party to be "a gamechanger" in Swedish politics (Daniel Poohl, CEO of a left-wing organization) as AfS are "bringing together far-right factions that have resisted cooperation in the past and have not been able to find homes within the Sweden Democrats or the small neo-Nazi Nordic Resistance Movement." Others, like political scientist Cas Mudde, say that this is great news for SD, as it backs up SD's claim that they have become more moderate -- so moderate that extremists leave the party in droves and found their own one.

I’d be more inclined to agree with Mudde until is AvS polling.

Also: is is Kasselsteand a Petry fan?

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I’d be more inclined to agree with Mudde until is AvS polling.

Agreed.

Also: is is Kasselsteand a Petry fan?

Seems more like the Gauland supporting type to me...

Yeah, I forgot that Petry sort of represented the “moderate” (using that term very lightly) wing of AfD before she left the party.

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Brannon wants to visit SD to “learn from them”, but they don’t want him:

https://www.salon.com/2018/04/03/steve-bannon-reveals-plans-to-visit-sweden-to-learn-from-the-nations-far-right-party_partner/

Non-US posters: is Bannon viewed as particularly extreme even beyond Trump?

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I was previously under the impression that AvS would be small, and the defection of the far-right would be a net benefit for the SD. But if they're actually taking off enough to come close to entering parliament they could be harming SD.

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I was previously under the impression that AvS would be small, and the defection of the far-right would be a net benefit for the SD. But if they're actually taking off enough to come close to entering parliament they could be harming SD.

By a) normalizing SD, who look moderate in comparison, and b) moving the Overton window to the right, they could still help increase the chances of SD government cooperation with the center-right (through a demand-and-supply agreement or on an ad-hoc basis, not from within the government), even if SD's percentage of the vote would be a bit lower. I hope AfS manage to make it in and would consider voting for them if they poll higher than 3%.

I meant AvS might harm SD by taking away a chunk of the vote SD can’t make up with center-right coverts.

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Sweden Lolocrats

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I think is important to note that Sweden has a long story of refugees inflows, for example, between the 70s and 80s the country received thousands of chilean (political reasons in the 70s and mainly economic in the 80s). People like Harald Edelstam saved more than a thousand people from Pinochet's regime. There is also a link about chileans in Sweden.

https://www.thelocal.se/20170505/the-forgotten-story-of-swedens-chilean-refugees

Beautiful country, never change please.

Thanks for bringing this up — the folk singer José González is the child of two of those refugees.

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There will be a vote on Löfven as PM on Friday. Tomorrow, he will announce which parties he intends to form a government with. With Lööf's message yesterday, Löfven should get a majority of the parliament voting against him. And then there will be two tries left before a new election is automatically called.

S, V, MP maybe L voting in favor, the rest voting against I'm guessing?