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« on: June 24, 2011, 05:54:26 PM »

When was supporting Israel ever a Left-Wing Position?  European left-of-center parties generally don't support Israel, and the only reason the Democrats due is because they were the party of the Jews before Israel existed.
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2011, 07:19:26 PM »

When was supporting Israel ever a Left-Wing Position?

Are you for real?

Okay, speaking as someone not well versed in European Foreign policy, enlighten me.  It just doesn't seem like the Left has ever really had a legitimate reason to support Israel.
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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2011, 07:25:37 PM »

When was supporting Israel ever a Left-Wing Position?

Are you for real?

Okay, speaking as someone not well versed in European Foreign policy, enlighten me.  It just doesn't seem like the Left has ever really had a legitimate reason to support Israel.

What does this have to do with European Foreign Policy?

I assume Israel is considered a foreign country to most Europeans, and the US has basically always supported Israel.

or am I missing something here?
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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2011, 09:15:12 PM »


I assume support of Israel has never been a progressive cause in the US (Democrats support it for other reasons), so i was wondering if the Europeans Left parties were initially pro-Israel while the Right parties were not.
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2011, 05:57:40 PM »

When was supporting Israel ever a Left-Wing Position?

Are you for real?

Okay, speaking as someone not well versed in European Foreign policy, enlighten me.  It just doesn't seem like the Left has ever really had a legitimate reason to support Israel.

Israel was viewed for decades as a progressive state fighting its own corner in a part of the world dominated by nasty dictatorships and as much of an example of democratic socialism in action as Sweden. To use an example from Britain, even most of the people on the Left who were opposed to the Suez invasion were broadly sympathetic towards Israel's actions during the crisis. Going back a little further, one of the main complaints the Labour Left had against Ernest Bevin was that he was hostile to Zionism.

So its more that Israel was a left-wing state surrounded by unfriendly autocracies, than a Leftist belief that Israel was morally right in its dispute with the Palestinians?
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2011, 10:28:39 PM »

So its more that Israel was a left-wing state surrounded by unfriendly autocracies, than a Leftist belief that Israel was morally right in its dispute with the Palestinians?

Hardly anyone at the time looked at things from that point of view; it was usually seen as a conflict between Israel and 'the Arabs' (meaning mostly neighbouring Arab states) rather than a conflict between Israel and the Palestinians (and this would be because mostly that's what it was until the aftermath of '67).

Ahh, that makes more sense.  Thank you.
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