Italy 2013 official results thread

[YL]

Is this (posted on the Guardian's liveblog) likely to be reasonably accurate?

[YL]

The Left finally won Piemont ?

Good to see, but it was not enough.

What's next ? New elections ?

Hopefully with a new voting system...

Is that likely?  And if so what are the possibilities for the new system?

[YL]

Relatively, Berlusconi's best province with 'only' 8% loss against 2008 has ben Bolzano, which at the same time is Grillo's worst region. Obviously the province's linguistic divide has resulted in SVP (CD) vs. Center-Right vote polarisation.

Berlusconi really didn't have very far to fall in South Tyrol; even in 2008 he only got 16% there.  So an 8% loss is quite bad, really.

I've been looking at some of the Ladin areas.  In South Tyrol, it seems that they basically vote like the German speakers (e.g. Urtijëi: SVP 48% other centre left 14% Freiheitlichen 14% Monti 8% Berlusconi 8% Grillo 7%).  In Trentino, on the other hand, Berlusconi and Monti dominate (e.g. Vigo di Fassa: Monti 37% Berlusconi 28% Grillo 17% centre left including SVP 12%).

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I thought they were connected to the Austrian right (FPÖ and BZÖ) which suggests that they're not really what I'd think of as "centre right".  They're also separatist.

[YL]

If they're just gonna put in another technocratic government, what the hell's the point in even having an election in the first place?

Very undemocratic.

To be fair, the Italian voters (and their constitution and electoral system, together with Grillo's attitude) did produce a ridiculously indecisive election result.

I'm pretty much resigned at this point to a second election leading to either a Berlusconi comeback or an M5S government.