Oklahoma's domino has fallen

[So rightwing that I broke the Political Compass!]

GRRRR. This is the verydefinition of judicial activism. By what right does an appointed-for-life judge veto the religious beliefs of an entire state?

Liberals should remember the consequences that their movement bore when Roe v. Wade was shoved down the nation's throat 40 years ago. It actually undermines support for the cause that has been imposed.

[So rightwing that I broke the Political Compass!]

Still furthermore, most sane people recognize that abortion is a much more morally fraught issue than gay marriage because it's literally a matter of (how one defines) life and death.

How is that any more fraught then how we define the means of producing life, that is to say relations between a man and a woman?

[So rightwing that I broke the Political Compass!]

GRRRR. This is the verydefinition of judicial activism. By what right does an appointed-for-life judge veto the religious beliefs of an entire state?

Liberals should remember the consequences that their movement bore when Roe v. Wade was shoved down the nation's throat 40 years ago. It actually undermines support for the cause that has been imposed.

Rich coming from the party of Citizens United and Hobby Lobby.

Those were simple reinforcements of longstanding constitutional principles regarding freedom of  speech and freedom of religion. Gay marriage OTOH is the imposition of an entirely unprecedented definition of marital relations, the implication being that America is abandoning one of the cornerstones of western civilization: the nuclear family.

[So rightwing that I broke the Political Compass!]

Gay marriage OTOH is the imposition of an entirely unprecedented definition of marital relations, the implication being that America is abandoning one of the cornerstones of western civilization: the nuclear family.

Actually, the cornerstone of western civilization, indeed of civilization generally, has been the extended family, not the nuclear family, and while we indeed have been abandoning that institution for the nuclear family for some decades now, you have utterly failed to explain how gay marriage imperils family, be it extended or nuclear.

To the contrary, the extended family is if anything in a slightly stronger position then it has been historically, at least in countries like America which originated in colonialism and subsequent interminable westward spread. That sort of mobility was only possible because of the nuclear family's strength, since it by definition meant the abandonment of extended family ties.

It imperils the nuclear family because it signals the government withdrawing it's favoritism for reproduction within the nuclear family.

[So rightwing that I broke the Political Compass!]

How is that any more fraught then how we define the means of producing life, that is to say relations between a man and a woman?

If it's not already intuitive to you how why that's a specious equivalency then I'm not sure I can explain it to you.

Please try.