UT-04/Mason-Dixon: Matheson in a tough fight for new seat

[Nichlemn]

I think I'll vote for the Justice Party guy running, because I frankly can't stand Matheson.

No!!! Congress needs more centrist Democrats! You're not gonna get a progressive elected from a 56% McCain district...

But he's so centrist he's practically a (moderate to 90s conservative) Republican! There can and should be a centrist Democrat in Utah, but he isn't it. Moderates and leftists aren't inspired to vote for him, and since the new district has the biggest chunk of Salt Lake City in it, that counts for a lot. He could easily be at least a little bit more liberal, but he refuses to do so. That's what makes me hate him.

I doubt it. Having part of a liberal city in your district doesn't make it possible to vote liberally if the rest is conservative.

[Nichlemn]

The problem is when the DINO/RINOs are in positions of authority in the House/Senate; then they can screw up key bits of legislation (like Obamacare; it's not like it would have a public option, but it would be a lot better if there would have been actual progressives looking over it).

Are the DINOs actually subtracting from the bill - that is, they're making it worse than if they were replaced by Republicans? Or are they are worse relative to the fantasy counterfactual where they're all replaced by progressive Democrats?