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cpeeks
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« on: May 03, 2010, 01:12:59 PM »

two words: James Carville
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2010, 01:14:09 PM »

Ross Perot and Saddam had nothing to do with it.
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2010, 02:55:22 PM »

On Oct 1 when Perot re -entered the race the polls stood at Clinton 55%-Bush 45%- Perot 7%, when it ended it 43%-38%-19%. You do the math without Perot  in the race Clinton wins in one of the largest popular, and electoral votes in U.S. history
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2010, 06:41:02 AM »

Ross Perot votes came from Clinton, the republicans love to push the myth that Perot voters came from Bush. Clinton would have beat Bush by 20 + points without Perot in the race. Quit kidding yourself, the people wanted change.
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2010, 07:19:34 AM »

Ya my bad thanks for pointing that out the polls numbers stood at Clinton 55% Bush 35% Perot 7%
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2010, 08:05:12 AM »

Yea like Carville had posted in the war room "It's the economy, stupid."
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2010, 09:28:31 AM »

Your  right removing Saddam would have hurt him especially if it developed into the quagmire that it is right now.
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2010, 09:48:37 AM »

Just look at the numbers, most Perot voters went to Clinton, geez you dont have to have a degree in math to see Clinton went from in the mid 50's to low 40's and Perot went from 7 to 19 Bush's numbers didnt change, to figure out where the Perot voters came from, and I never said all the Perot voters came from Clinton just the vast majority of them did. People were ready for a change I remeber that election and the excitement Clinton/Gore generated. As far as 1996 goes Im not sure how the Perot vote figured into it, but it proabably split somewhere down the middle.
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cpeeks
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2010, 10:04:28 AM »

Lol w/e, and Bush SR. was anything BUT a conservative!!!!
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2010, 02:29:41 PM »

Oh get real. Republicans just stand it that Bush Sr. didnt a have a prayer against Clinton. After May of that year Bush never led again, and every one of those polls showed the same thing Clinton trouncing Bush, but I am sure only democrats got polled right? This reminds me of a kid's arguement. Regardless of any of this it comes down to one thing: Clinton won, Bush lost get over it.
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2010, 02:30:36 PM »

My economy is horrible because of W getting us involved in two un-just wars and I should know he sent me to those god forsaken places.
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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2010, 07:06:32 AM »

Raised taxes, extension of the civil rights bill, increases in welfare, clean air act, immigration act of 1990, support of abortion rights, spearheaded nafta.....would you like for me to continue?lol
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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2010, 09:44:14 AM »

Yea the Buchanan challenge was very evident of that, but  I am not sure Quayle hurt him, people dont vote for the veep, and he was a darling of the right.
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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2010, 01:00:18 PM »

They never do I am still not sure why people think that. If that was the case Dukakis would have beat Bush in 1988, Bentson was one of the best vepp choices ever, in fact he should have headed the ticket, he probably would have beat Bush.
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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2010, 03:44:07 PM »

If anything Quayle helped Bush he was a the fair haired child of the christian right and he mobilized the base.
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« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2010, 09:40:20 PM »
« Edited: May 15, 2010, 09:45:03 PM by cpeeks »

The right was lukewarm at best on Bush, because of his support of abortion and the Ryan White act of 1990. Quayle helped Bush. As far as Buchanan's culutural war speech, Bush was already done he was trailing in some polls by as many as 25 points at that point, and even if Bush carries those 3 states he still doesnt win.
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« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2010, 05:27:49 PM »

Well lets see Reagan did raise taxes 13 times and in 1983 tax hike was the largest tax increase in U.S. history at the time.
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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2010, 05:48:53 PM »

Maybe it was 1982, but i dont remember Reagan flip flopping on abortion and i am old enough to remember when he was in office.
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« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2010, 02:33:16 PM »

Im not sure which it was but i will find out.
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« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2010, 03:54:14 PM »

most of it was on new investment
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« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2010, 08:31:46 PM »

Actually Reagan popularity rating was going up when he left office, throughout his administration his numbers stayed in the mid 50's when he left office they  were at 63%. There is a myth that Reagen was so popular  and this just isnt true, in 1982-83 his numbers stood in the upper 30's. Reagan had good numbers but nothing astronomical.
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« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2010, 08:32:32 PM »

And yes I was watching that debate when that happened.
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« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2010, 12:22:29 AM »

But it did not look presidential, but i dsagree with youn on one thing totally its hard to tell someone with cancer i know what your going through when you never had it. I am curious why are you so in love with Bush Sr.?
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« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2010, 06:35:44 PM »

I didnt say i had cancer, but dude get real he looked like a second rate amatuer when he looked at his watch, basically putting off an image that he didnt have time for the american people.
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« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2010, 12:04:26 AM »

Lol I still say you are a Bush lover!!!!!!!!!!
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