Improving the Vice Presidency Amendment [Debating] (user search)
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
May 28, 2024, 07:49:22 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Atlas Fantasy Elections
  Atlas Fantasy Government (Moderators: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee, Lumine)
  Improving the Vice Presidency Amendment [Debating] (search mode)
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: Improving the Vice Presidency Amendment [Debating]  (Read 2495 times)
Yelnoc
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,210
United States


« on: February 25, 2012, 11:00:30 PM »

What do we need more senators for?  If you want to make the VP a senator, fine, go ahead.  Give all the cabinet posts senatorial powers if you want, but give back!  We need more active people in regional governments!  Having more than ten senators is ridiculous.
Logged
Yelnoc
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,210
United States


« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2012, 02:53:49 PM »

What do we need more senators for?  If you want to make the VP a senator, fine, go ahead.  Give all the cabinet posts senatorial powers if you want, but give back!  We need more active people in regional governments!  Having more than ten senators is ridiculous.

I don't understand this objection either. We're just graduating the Vice President from "Senator in very specific circumstances" to "Giving him a Senate job full time." This has nothing to do with the Senate more broadly or reducing viable candidates for Senate elections. If people want to oppose this, that's their prerogative but I at least wish people would frame their objections within the topic.

We have uncompetitive regional elections because people don't step up to the plate. The people have no one to blame but themselves. At least with this proposal we would ideally have:

1. A more active and engaging Vice Presidency.
2. More ideologically consistent and meaningful tickets.
3. More Senate activity.
4. Elections that are more about competency and governing consequences than popularity contests circa the prom.

Your objections, based on some sort of weird daisy-chaining-back-to-the-regions logic, could be just as easily applied to the current situation in having a Vice President at all. Yet when given the opportunity, people don't want to abolish it either. And why not? Token VP candidates are the greatest tool of parties that want power. If we're going to have a Vice President at all, the job should at least be worth a damn. Since no one apparently wants to get rid of it altogether, then..
I would be fine with getting rid of the Vice President.  My point is, the regions are suffering from inactivity.  With that in mind, why would our priorities be towards augmenting the federal government?
Logged
Pages: [1]  
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.024 seconds with 12 queries.