Conderate states never rejoin US

[Wakie]

As Super points out, many of those politicians and/or their ancestors were from Southern States (making it highly unlikely that they would run for President of the Union).

I have always believed that if the United States had seperated in the 1860s that it would have continued to further seperate and that the Nation we currently know as America would look a lot more like Europe.  The precedent would be set that any time a state wanted to leave it could.  And with the great # of disagreements of the years you know it would have happened many times.  Some states would experiment with different forms of government (imagine a truly Communist state in North America).  Maybe a war or two could have erupted in the Americas.  And it is almost certain that not every state/nation would have wanted to jump into WWII.

The truly United States of America have managed to accomplish quite a bit of good over the years that a fractured America would not have been able to accomplish.

[Wakie]

I disagree.  Certainly not all 11 would have left at first.  But ultimately what happens when a state is faced with a strong federal measure with which it disagrees?  They have the option to break away and they would certainly use it.  Whether the issue is slavery (some states would want to hang onto it longer than others) or abortion or whatever there would be issues which some would see as being worth leaving the Union or Confederacy over.

[Wakie]

What federal measure? No federal measure pertaining to slavery or abortion would be constitutional, and none was attempted until after the Civil War.

But fear of them is what ultimately led to the seperation, wasn't it?

[Wakie]

What federal measure? No federal measure pertaining to slavery or abortion would be constitutional, and none was attempted until after the Civil War.

But fear of them is what ultimately led to the seperation, wasn't it?

I would disagree with that assessment. Most of the battle was about the spread of slavery into the territories. Lincoln himself made it very clear he had no intention to interfere with slavery in the South, and even endorsed a constitutional amendment that would prohibit any future amendment giving the Congress the power to interfere with the domestic institutions of any state.

Why were slave states concerned with having slavery in new states?  Because they were fearful of slave states becoming a minority in Congress.  Why were they so concerned about that?  Because they were afraid that Congress would interfere with their ability to retain slaves.  They didn't trust Lincoln and so they left.  Same thing would have happened for other contraversial issues.  Remember that the city of New York considered secession during the Civil War.