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Junkie
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« on: January 11, 2011, 09:24:35 PM »

however to insist that 'local and regional employees of departments dealing with road repair, snow removal, trash collection, and disaster relief' are prohibited from striking' is curious. While these are no doubt essential services they are not by any means on par with law enforcement. Not having your trash collected for one day is far less damaging to families than not having the schools open due to a teachers strike (which is not and should not be illegal) It also affects some of the poorest paid workers.

In response to your concerns, I would like to respond.  The reason I put road repair, snow removal, and disaster relief on the list is due to the fact that a shut down of these services can really destroy a city, if the situation were right.  If snow removal decided to strike during a blizzard, the ability of law enforcement, medical personnel, etc. to do their jobs would be non-existant.  Having been in a police chase during the middle of a snow storm, the thought that that could last for a period of a strike is quite distressing.  My cousin, a huge union member, talks with pride about a strike by the drawbridge operators in Chicago.  They raised the bridges and then went on strike -- crippling the city and ensuring a surrender to their demands.  As far as garbage collectors, read about the mounds of garbage left during the strikes in the 70s in NYC.  Garbage in a summer can lead to disease.

As far salaries, just check this out:

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dsny/html/jobs/jobs.shtml

In five years they make $10,000 more than I do in eight years as a prosecutor.  That of course does not count for overtime, which in big cities leads to huge salaries for cops, garbage collectors, snow plow operators.

Actually, teachers are worse paid than all of the above examples in my experience.  Although I would have added teachers, I just thought that I was asking for a lot already.
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Junkie
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2011, 07:07:38 PM »

Thank you for posting that. But why is there reason to overturn the entire bill and not just simply amend it? And also we can't just let dead beat dads and moms off the hook, that doesn't get child support payments in either.

It could be amended, but it would be gutted in such a way that it would cease to be the bill it was. Why on earth was it called an 'Abortion Reduction' bill in the first instance as abortion is not touched in the bill at all? (On a side note if anything it encourages potential 'dead-beat dads' to pressure easily led and vulnerable partners to have an abortion rather than risk picking up the financial tab later)

What would be required is a Child Support and Maintenance Bill (call it for what it is) that sets out levels of child support payments, a payment programme and appropriate penalties for those who do not pay.

That legislates to much and takes away from the power of the judiciary.  Judges set the levels of payment, and the payment schedules in civil law.  The penalties are appropriate.  They do not require prison, but have it as an option in cases where dead beat dads do nothing.  We have a unit in Milwaukee that steps in with prosecution only when all other avenues have been exhausted.  A criminal case can be dismissed if payments begin again, a judge can put someone on probation to pay, or in cases of clear violation put the offender in prison.  This is an appropriate solution that is currently working.
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Junkie
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2011, 08:23:18 AM »

I  am sorry, but I think the "practical" concerns here do not take into account the role of prosecutors and judges in these matters.  While all are not perfect, I believe those on the ground currently making those decisions are doing a superb job in very tough situations.  Our bill (yeah the name sucks, but who cares) establishes a great framework for the system to remedy very tough matters.
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Junkie
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2011, 10:00:42 PM »

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