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Giant Saguaro
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« on: August 13, 2004, 03:49:36 PM »
« edited: August 13, 2004, 03:54:00 PM by TheGiantSaguaro »

The first sentence is correct. Thank the Lord.

The second sentence has seemed incorrect mostly throughout our history. In modern times, we got closest to it under FDR. LBJ wanted us to go there, but we fought him and rejected it. Carter wanted to take us there and we rejected it soundly. Mondale and Dukakis likewise, and they were flatly rejected. Clinton ended the welfare state as we knew it. Libs have been on a losing streak since FDR on this one. And we keep moving further from it. Almost no one wants the label of "liberal Democrat."
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Giant Saguaro
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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2004, 07:04:19 PM »

The first sentence is correct. Thank the Lord.

The second sentence has seemed incorrect mostly throughout our history. In modern times, we got closest to it under FDR. LBJ wanted us to go there, but we fought him and rejected it. Carter wanted to take us there and we rejected it soundly. Mondale and Dukakis likewise, and they were flatly rejected. Clinton ended the welfare state as we knew it. Libs have been on a losing streak since FDR on this one. And we keep moving further from it. Almost no one wants the label of "liberal Democrat."
If Federal spending on social programs can be used as a measure of socialism then it seems that socialism has been growing steadily since 1940, as shown in the following website;

http://mwhodges.home.att.net/fed_budget.htm

Man, that's messed up, David S, that's jacked up. That goes against everything I've read, heard, seen, and so on and so forth. Interesting graph. Must certainly have to do with a bigger economy, bigger population, and people living longer. I don't know. At least it dipped when Reagan was in and he cut all KINDS of social spending, as did all of them since him, but according to the graph, it gets higher and higher. Hmm. Scaling back the military after the fall of the Soviet Union through Clinton to Bush 43 I've said was a bad idea, and it may well be reflected here.
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