Saturday Massacre: Pelosi, Israel, Wasserman Schultz call for Weiner to resign

[milhouse24]

He's probably heard all of the jokes all his life, lol. 
He's only been married one year, his wife has a special relationship with hillary, he doesn't have to be monogamous. 

[milhouse24]

This is how you hack into a Twitter or Facebook account:

Use "firesheep" a hacking app for Firefox

If he used an open wireless connection without HttpS - then its guaranteed someone sharing that network at a coffeeshop or where-ever found his password.

Unfortunately, I think more and more people will use firesheep for harm now.

[milhouse24]

Yeah, its possible the picture is him, and he meant to send it to someone else. 
Or it is some GOP prankster who has tried other stunts on other Democrat congressmen, which is plausible considering this person may have once tried to tap the phones of a democrat recently.  I'm sure there are other hackers capable of doing this kind of stuff, but "Twitter" would know the IP address of all the tweets, and the police should subpoena them if Weiner files charges.

[milhouse24]

An Alternative theory was that he was messaging someone with the name "H" and accidentally sent it to someone with the name "G"

His wife might have a twitter account - Huma Abedin - but I can't find it.

He may have been trying to send his wife the photo?

[milhouse24]

Honestly, he should go with my theory, and just tell people he was trying to send the Photo to his wife, and accidentally sent it to someone else.  Because he loves his wife and wants to keep the marriage fresh.  But I now really do think he was sexting with these girls, but there so far is no evidence he had any intimate physical relations with any other woman or man after he was married.  Also, if he was really hacked, twitter would have to put out a statement indicating that their network has been secured, otherwise other twitter users will publicly complain. 

The Twitter CEO knows the real story, ask him!!!

[milhouse24]

Alternative Theory: Weiner was actually hacked and people cannot believe that perhaps, just this once, a politician is actually telling the truth.

If he was hacked, he would not have been able to re-claim the password and access the account. 

If he was hacked, he would be calling the police or informing twitter to re-take control of the account.

To hack the account, the hacker would change the password of the twitter account.

He would also be a lot more upset about "Outside conspirators hacking into his account" if he truly believed it. 

But he knows the truth, which is that he or someone close to him sent the photo, it was not an outside party or hacker. 

[milhouse24]

That's not my Weiner!!!
That is my Weiner!!!
Weiner Sext!!!

What a perv, he follows hot young women on Twitter for no reason other than to have sext with them.  Somebody should subpoena his twitter and facebook accounts

[milhouse24]

The Big Winner is Big Breitbart - Did he have a deal with Weiner for the PC or was that 4 pm Breitbart Conference the "Star Making Moment"? 

Breitbart has the x-rated cockadoodle shot and can get anything he wants from Weiner Now.

I think Weiner denied all involvement cuz he wanted it all to go away, and hope none of his Online Girlfriends talked, but too late, don't trust Red-State Texans!

Basically, the reason Weiner cried was because Breitbart PWNED him just before his speech.  Weiner cried because he was totally destroyed and the mounting evidence proved it. 

I knew Weiner would eventually own up to it, because there would be many many girls.  Just like Chris Lee resigned because he was having affairs and CL encounters, and didn't want any more to get out. 

But I think Weiner is safe now because he never had any physical affairs, just some cyber-sexting.  Unless Pelosi and the house investigation finds worse stuff, he's safe.

Also, Weiner totally was going to get caught, he had all these Girls as "friends" on twitter and the conservative stalkers stalking his Twitter Feed 24-7.  How do Twitter people read 24-7, its the most meaningless drivel on the web?

[milhouse24]

I would really love to hear Time Kaine and Ed Rendell (and other Dems calling on Weiner to resign) explain why Bill Clinton shouldn't have resigned over his behavior.

The reason Bill Clinton didn't need to resign, even though Al Gore really wanted him to, was because he was El Presidente, and nothing short of impeachment would remove him from office. 

Weiner doesn't have the power of the Chief Executive and can maybe face some Congressional penalties, so fighting and staying in the HOR will be tough if he faces the sanctions.  He might decide it is better to be a wealthy lobbyist than a HOR. 

[milhouse24]

I would really love to hear Time Kaine and Ed Rendell (and other Dems calling on Weiner to resign) explain why Bill Clinton shouldn't have resigned over his behavior.

The reason Bill Clinton didn't need to resign, even though Al Gore really wanted him to, was because he was El Presidente, and nothing short of impeachment would remove him from office.  

Weiner doesn't have the power of the Chief Executive and can maybe face some Congressional penalties, so fighting and staying in the HOR will be tough if he faces the sanctions.  He might decide it is better to be a wealthy lobbyist than a HOR.  

Well of course the reason he didn't resign is because he didn't have to.  That's why I said "should".

EDIT: I mean, look, these are the actual words used by Tim Kaine, regarding Weiner:

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If that's what Kaine thinks, then was he also in favor of Clinton resigning back in 1998?

the difference between then and now is that Kaine is now a National figure for the DNC and has to protect the Dem Congress seats and national Democrats without sideshows.  Back then he was a nobody just trying to move up the ladder and keep his head down.  Sure maybe Clinton should have resigned but that would have been historically epic and may have done more damage to Democrats image (like Nixon resigning) but Clinton stayed and now has high approvals. 

[milhouse24]

I would really love to hear Time Kaine and Ed Rendell (and other Dems calling on Weiner to resign) explain why Bill Clinton shouldn't have resigned over his behavior.

The reason Bill Clinton didn't need to resign, even though Al Gore really wanted him to, was because he was El Presidente, and nothing short of impeachment would remove him from office. 

Weiner doesn't have the power of the Chief Executive and can maybe face some Congressional penalties, so fighting and staying in the HOR will be tough if he faces the sanctions.  He might decide it is better to be a wealthy lobbyist than a HOR. 

Link?

Al Gore's daughter wrote a fictional book about how a "scandalized president should resign in favor of the VP" - she obviously had the support of her father in that opinion.  Al saw it as an easy way to become president, and improve his election chances.

[milhouse24]

On the uncensored Weiner pic - How did he get that camera angle???

The photo is an under-shot with his balls and weiner - How can you reach that far down to take a photo, maybe if you're crouching. 

Anyways, it was a serious effort and commitment to get that angle and make your weiner look big.

[milhouse24]

Hahaha, Weiner might be trying to stick his ****** in a 17 year old.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/10/exclusive-weiners-messages-to-teenage-girl-in-delaware-draw-police-attention/

NEW CASTLE, Del. -- Police on Friday afternoon came to the home of a 17-year-old high school junior to ask her about direct online communications she has had with Rep. Anthony Weiner.

Sources close the student said the girl followed Weiner on Twitter after seeing him speak during a school trip to Washington on April 1. Weiner, after signing on to follow the girl's Twitter feed, direct-messaged the girl on April 13, the sources said, though it is not clear what other communication the two may have had between or after those dates.



That's a felony in Delaware.

Interesting.  The age of consent in Texas is 17.  There may be an age gap issue though if either party is over 18.

Weird that sexting would be a felony in another state if you don't even have physical contact.  That's America for you.

Huh?  A minor is someone under 18, and you can't send naked photos to minors, even if you are physically dating them, which he was not.  He was just some Myspace Catch a Predator guy trying to seduce minors with naked photos and sext talk.

[milhouse24]

I did see a liberal bias especially attacking Breitbart for being the "hacker" and putting up fake photos.  Of course, Breitbart could get into worse trouble if he posts "naked photos" on the website, which could alert NSFW censors on google, and I think there are some other legal issues of posting unspecified/defamatory naked photos by newspapers. 

Like most technologically and culturally savvy people, knew deep down that Weiner sent the photo and had at the very least a few online girlfriends.  But the evidence was very minimal because it was just one photo that only 1 person saw, and sent to Breitbart.  If it was just that 1 photo, and no other women came forward, then Weiner would have survived and could have blamed it on a mysterious technical malfunction.  But the 1 photo was certainly serious enough for the RW to smell blood in the water and take Weiner down. 

But the liberal media, was confused because there was only 1 photo evidence, and you couldn't identify the person in the grey boxer briefs.  So there was no evidence that it was Weiner in the photo or that he specifically sent the link.  Also, if I was Cordova, I would have my lawyer contact Weiner for some "pain and suffering money."  Jon Stewart wasn't sure if it was definitely Weiner in the photo and "Weiner claimed he did not send the photo" so you have to believe him because he was not yet caught in a lie.

But everyone was just waiting for more evidence and the other shoe to drop.  And just as expected, more women came out with more Weiner photos, and Weiner finally confessed.

Lessons learned:  Don't open any e-mails from a guy named Weiner!!!

[milhouse24]

LOLZ, the only reason they're calling for his resignation is because their Monthly Fundraising has amounted to ZERO.  All their donors are complaining about Weiner and what a liar he is, etc. 

The Republicans Want Weiner to stay in office just like Mark Foley became a lightening rod for online sexual deviancy and predatory behavior.  All the Christian conservatives will be donating to the RNC to get the sexual deviants out of office.  Just as Dubya said he was "going to restore morality to the oval office and give it a good cleaning" - it works for both parties. 

Vitter got lucky because he had 6 years to ride it out and his constituents didn't care after a few years or just plain forgot. 

[milhouse24]

"I think he's embarrassed himself. He's acknowledged that," Obama told Ann Curry in an interview for air Tuesday.  "He's embarrassed his wife and his family. Ultimately, there's gonna be a decision for him and is constituents. I can tell you that if it was me, I would resign.’’

“When you get to the point where, because of various personal distractions, you can't serve as effectively as you need to, at the time when people are worrying about jobs, and their mortgages, and paying the bills — then you should probably step back,’’ Obama said.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Weiner-Sexting-Scandal-Twitter-Congress-Rehab-123749919.html

For the first time, even I'm thinking Weiner might not be able to brazen this out and will resign some time this week.

I think Weiner is trying to leverage some sort of blackmail against Pelosi/Obama for leaving congress.  Maybe he wants some future financial support or some ambassadorship or appointment.

[milhouse24]

"I think he's embarrassed himself. He's acknowledged that," Obama told Ann Curry in an interview for air Tuesday.  "He's embarrassed his wife and his family. Ultimately, there's gonna be a decision for him and is constituents. I can tell you that if it was me, I would resign.’’

“When you get to the point where, because of various personal distractions, you can't serve as effectively as you need to, at the time when people are worrying about jobs, and their mortgages, and paying the bills — then you should probably step back,’’ Obama said.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Weiner-Sexting-Scandal-Twitter-Congress-Rehab-123749919.html

For the first time, even I'm thinking Weiner might not be able to brazen this out and will resign some time this week.

I think Weiner is trying to leverage some sort of blackmail against Pelosi/Obama for leaving congress.  Maybe he wants some future financial support or some ambassadorship or appointment.

Doubtful - though one theory why Weiner might be hanging on is to use his resignation as a bargaining chip should the Department of Justice try to bring criminal charges against him.  

One former prosecutor interviewed on the local news tonight claims Weiner could be charged with using government property for personal gain for taking the most recent set of released photos in the House Gym.  It seems like a huge stretch to me - no one would ever think of charging a Congressman or staffer who takes a more normal photo on House grounds to send to his wife or kids with such a crime.  It's such a minor use of Government property that it is meaningless.

I think he could face "indecency charges" if some of the women complain about receiving unwanted photos from him, like the first woman from Seattle, who claims she never had DM with Weiner and was completely baffled as to why he sent the photo (he was actually trying to send the photo to adult film actress Ginger lynn).

[milhouse24]

I don't think he'll get indicted for tampering with a witness because the adult film actress was only responding to reporters and not to law enforcement.