Would you accept this AZ map as a compromise, or urge your team fight on?

[Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)]

The swing districts need to be made about 4 points Mccain for me to agree to it. Those are lean Republican districts. Like R+2. Especially that Tucson district. Get rid of that northeast county, add more of Tucson. And the 5th can pick up a bit more of inner city Phoenix, and less northern exurbs.

I agree with this analysis.

As to whether or not I think I could get a better deal, it's a gamble to be sure. But I'm on the side that has nothing to lose.

If anything, I would reject the compromise out of pure spite.

[Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)]

Here's my newest shot.




AZ-4 and AZ-7 are 55+% VAP Hispanic.
AZ-8 is 49.7% McCain, 49.2% Obama.
AZ-5 is 51.4% McCain, 47.3% Obama.
AZ-1 is 54.7% McCain. 44.0% Obama.

Both AZ-1 and AZ-5 are comparable to current districts which have been competitive. AZ-8 probably isn't. New district AZ-9 is safe GOP obviously, as are 2, 3, 6.

The Democrats have an outside shot at 5 districts while the GOP has an outside shot at 7.

I'd consider accepting this as a compromise, unless I was from Flagstaff.

[Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)]

Let me add a potential table for all to accept or reject. I'll use the Torie PVI which I understand is the McCain fraction of the two party vote minus 52.3%. The districts are ordered from most D to most R. Help me out by explaining the reason for rejection.

A: -16.4%, HVAP 58.1%
B: -11.1%, HVAP 59.1%
C: -2.2%
D: +2.2%
E: +3.2%
F: +4.7%
G: +5.9%
H: +7.0%
I: +9.4%

As a Democrat on the Commission, I would likely reject this map in favor of Krazen's. His map gives us 4 winnable districts, you give us 3. Of course, I would have to see the map before committing to that decision.