France shows her weakness once again

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Germany's sending 3500.

They should send more.

Why the hell are there so much peacekeeping troops from 3rd World Countries like Bangladesh, Nepal, Pakistan, India where most people have nothing to eat, while the "alledged beacon of liberty and democracy" - i´m talking about the US, is hated to such an extent in this region that they can´t even deploy troops there ? I find this disturbing, really.

US shouldn't sent troops, we're too far on the side of Israel to have a proper peace keeping force. Teh 3rd world nations actually have the balls to do the job of the UN while most of the countries in Europe talk big about what should happen but when the moment comes they don't do crap (and blame the US for not doing everything their way).

That´s not what i mean. The US currently have about 500 times the troops for fighting a war (a war in Iraq which had nothing to do with Sept. 11) than peacekeeping forces around the world. The US actually had about 350 peacekeeping troops under the mandate of the UN. Even tiny Austria has about 400 peacekeepers on the Golan Heights next to Israel, Syria and Lebanon.

So? It's not like the UN peacekeeping troops do any good. They aren't really allowed to do anything and when the guns start fireing the France (and other European countries) get scared and force the UN to pull out. Have the US send peacekeeping troops to the area seperate from the UN, maybe then something would get done.

The thing is to keep the peace. The UN troops should be some kind of referree there. These troops shouldn´t even be attacked. And when there´s a ceasefire and peace agreement there should be no fighting, from the Hisbollah and from Israel. When the UN troops are doing their job, Hisbollah is quiet, or better if their arms are removed by the UN forces and Israel is within it´s borders, everything would be ok. If Hisbollah again attacks Israel despite the ceasefire, then it´s illegitimate. UN-Missions are not always doomed to fail as you can see in Congo where elections were held now. But you are right when it comes to the US troop deployment in Lebanon. You know what happens when US troops are deployed there (1983 bombing). As long as you are seen as occupators there nothing will change.

The simple truth is that UN forces are worse than worthless.

They have a history of turning a blind eye to the activities of hisbollah etc. (defacto serving as the defender of such terrorists).

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France will increase its deployment to 2.000 soldiers ...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/24/AR2006082401106.html

It's about time.  Still, I think Italy should take over the operation since they are showing the initiative.  France is dragging their feet.

Well, I'm afflicted ... but before this a country whose initial ones are U, S and A provided weapons to Israel and encouraged the continuation of their offensive against Lebanon, so you might understand that France is asking itself questions about the legitimacy of USA's position...
Moreover, many French and European people find quite ... shocking, or at least disturbing, that a part of USA's politicians and public opinion is complaining about slowness (2 unhappy weeks!).
After all, aren't France and EU just trying to repair the damages caused by an unclear war nearly officially supported by the USA ? It's a real pleasure,  to hear Bush saying he's deceived that France hasn't send enough boys to clean up USA's mess ...

First, welcome to the forum.

Second, you really have a highly defective understanding of the situation .

What happened was that terrorists kidnapped Israeli citizens.  The Israeli government demanded their return.  The terrorists (who operate in places like Lebanon) refused to return the kidnapped Israeli's.  Israel used legitimate force to deal with the terrorist (insufficent force in my opinion).

Third, the French government is headed by two sociopaths who hate the United States.  Both the Preisent of France, and its Premier are VERY EVIL, EVIL men who will stop at nothing in their hatred of the United States and their veneration of evil.

Fourth, the "mess" is in large part caused by slimebags like De Vellipin.

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Third, the French government is headed by two sociopaths who hate the United States.  Both the Preisent of France, and its Premier are VERY EVIL, EVIL men who will stop at nothing in their hatred of the United States and their veneration of evil.

Speaking of hatred against certain countries...

Please reread.

The President of France and the Premier of that country, are evil and despicable. 

That does NOT make the country, or people thereof, evil and despicable.

It seems likely that de Vellepin days in government are numbered.

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Are you kidding?  The conflict in the Middle East is the United States's fault?  It is certainly not the United States's fault, nor Israel's fault, nor Lebanon's fault, nor Hezbollah's fault, nor Iran's fault, nor anyone else's fault.  It is the offspring of deep religious tension caused by centuries of misunderstanding, scores of power-hungry religious officials, legions of misguided followers, and several unfortunate mistakes.  To try to pin the conflict on one country, let alone one not even in the region, is severely underestimating the true complexity of the Middle Eastern situation.

I didn't said the whole thing since 1947, I was just speaking of 2006's conflict... Both Israel and Hezbollah can be blamed for this, but I think it should be the same for USA ... Everybody knows Israel do follow Bush's orders : hasn't he unofficially authorized Israel to continue the war for three more weeks in mid-july ? Bush had the power to stop Tsahal's invasion. Of course Hezbollah would still have been a big problem if war ceased in mid july. But for the same result we had one useless month of war... Bush could have stop it.

First, welcome to the forum.

Well, thanks, but just check my profile : Date Registered:  September 18, 2004, 08:38:30 pm

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God, I wish my whole life should be that clear and simple ...

I don't think of having deferred on Israel the whole responsibility for this conflict, far from there. I just allow myself to express my surprise about  the hypocrisy of the current foreign policy of the USA towards Lebanon.

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Sociopaths, OK But they do not hate the USA. And it's the same mistake people commit for 99% of French People. What we do not like is puritanism, ultra neo-conservatism. This way of thinking according to which God and the fatherland is what one must live for. Unfortunately, this description corresponds to Bush.

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American humour ?

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Don't worry about it, he's rotting somewhere in Hotel Matignon, we havn't seen him on TV for about two months. This guy is trying to make people forget himslef, even if he's still PM .

Again, please note that I do not accuse the French people of hating the United States.  However, I do accuse Chirac and de Vellepin of hating the United States.