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CARLHAYDEN
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« on: August 02, 2009, 10:33:03 PM »

Is there a clear Democratic nominee to trash that RINO John McCain yet? Too bad Barack Obama chose Janet Napolitano for Secretary of Homeland Security.

John McCain is the greatest Senator from Arizona!

McCain is a slimebag!
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CARLHAYDEN
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2009, 10:41:08 PM »

Is there a clear Democratic nominee to trash that RINO John McCain yet? Too bad Barack Obama chose Janet Napolitano for Secretary of Homeland Security.

1 - McCain is not a RINO, hes more of a liberal when republicans are in power and a conservative when they are out.  Yes he has some issues, but has been a fairly solid vote for us recently and I would prefer him any day over a dem nominee.

2 - Nappy (what this AZ resident and most other AZ residents call Napolitano) is not as strong of a candidate as the national talk suggests.  She left office with a gigantic budget gap and has raised different taxes including the state sales tax, tourism taxes, et. al.  Couple that with the vetos of voter passed initiatives - any candidate has a lot to run on.

3 - There is also a national dialogue that Arizona is a moderate and even liberal state now.  This is false.  Arizona only gets a few democrats when there are waves or when our governor has been scandalized, and even then, we've elected republicans.  Republicans control the state legislature and senate, along with the national senate, where we have one senator (Kyl) who is hardline conservative.  Giffords, Mitchell and Kirkpatrick will all be picked off in 2 - 6 years.  Mitchell will be the first to go. Even without McCain on the ticket, AZ would have likely still gone red because Maricopa county (the major population center) is deeply conservative.  The areas that help democrats are the indian reservations and Tucson, which is primarily a city that is made up of college students who dont leave.

4 - Isnt it weird that each of our last three governors have all had the first three letters (Jan) in their names and have all been women. (Jane Hull, Janet Napolitano, Jan Brewer)

5 - Brewer is in deep trouble unless she is able to deftly handle her inter-party enemies.  She also will have to overcome the fact that she wanted to raise the state sales tax (though she failed).  Terry Goddard our AG is an excellent candidate (and is the only democrat I have ever voted for).

6 - The real trash in our state is Andrew Thomas (R) and Phil Gordon (D) who are practically crime lords working together with their schemes.  Thomas was the one running against Goddard when I voted for Goddard.

First, McCain is a total slimebag!

Second, yes, Janet got out of Dodge before the budget she engineered collapsed.

Third, Giffords is going to go next year (Mitchell with probably join her).

Fourth, yeah, interesting.  But at least we got rid of the "Sue Nation."

Fifth, Brewer probably isn't going to run for election after her campaign for higher taxes.

Sixth, Thomas is OK, but Gordon is slime.
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CARLHAYDEN
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2009, 11:44:42 PM »

Is there a clear Democratic nominee to trash that RINO John McCain yet? Too bad Barack Obama chose Janet Napolitano for Secretary of Homeland Security.

1 - McCain is not a RINO, hes more of a liberal when republicans are in power and a conservative when they are out.  Yes he has some issues, but has been a fairly solid vote for us recently and I would prefer him any day over a dem nominee.

2 - Nappy (what this AZ resident and most other AZ residents call Napolitano) is not as strong of a candidate as the national talk suggests.  She left office with a gigantic budget gap and has raised different taxes including the state sales tax, tourism taxes, et. al.  Couple that with the vetos of voter passed initiatives - any candidate has a lot to run on.

3 - There is also a national dialogue that Arizona is a moderate and even liberal state now.  This is false.  Arizona only gets a few democrats when there are waves or when our governor has been scandalized, and even then, we've elected republicans.  Republicans control the state legislature and senate, along with the national senate, where we have one senator (Kyl) who is hardline conservative.  Giffords, Mitchell and Kirkpatrick will all be picked off in 2 - 6 years.  Mitchell will be the first to go. Even without McCain on the ticket, AZ would have likely still gone red because Maricopa county (the major population center) is deeply conservative.  The areas that help democrats are the indian reservations and Tucson, which is primarily a city that is made up of college students who dont leave.

4 - Isnt it weird that each of our last three governors have all had the first three letters (Jan) in their names and have all been women. (Jane Hull, Janet Napolitano, Jan Brewer)

5 - Brewer is in deep trouble unless she is able to deftly handle her inter-party enemies.  She also will have to overcome the fact that she wanted to raise the state sales tax (though she failed).  Terry Goddard our AG is an excellent candidate (and is the only democrat I have ever voted for).

6 - The real trash in our state is Andrew Thomas (R) and Phil Gordon (D) who are practically crime lords working together with their schemes.  Thomas was the one running against Goddard when I voted for Goddard.

First, McCain is a total slimebag!

Second, yes, Janet got out of Dodge before the budget she engineered collapsed.

Third, Giffords is going to go next year (Mitchell with probably join her).



Giffords have a tier 3 opponent.  If Tim Bee couldnt come close to beating her, this guy isnt either. 

I know both Tim and Keith, and Tim was (is) a putz (Keith's a good guy).

I reported on the campaign in 2008.

Giffords is bedoming arrogant and unresponsive to her constituents who are very unhappy with her and her activities as Nancy's little helper.
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CARLHAYDEN
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2009, 01:56:04 AM »

Yeah, I remember 'beehive' Rose.

I agree with your most recent post (except the AG candidate part).

Oh, and btw, there is one thing I will never forgive Fife for, i.e. rescuing a SOB when Fife was a lifeguard.

Oh, and one significant factor you left out in Arizona's population growth is that a lot of members of the armed forces (Air Force, Army and Marines) are stationed at one time in Arizona, and end up buying houses and retiring here.  We have one of the highest rates of retired military in the general population of any state in the nation.
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CARLHAYDEN
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2009, 07:46:19 AM »

Arizona has a 'resign to run' law which states that if you are not in the last year of your term of office and you announce your candidacy, you forfeit your office.

So, you'll have to wait.

There is a line forming to get at Giffords, who has been antagonizing long time supporters with her arrogance and fawning on Pelosi.

Giffords seems to (erroneously) believe that a campaign war chest indicates one's likelihood of sucess in an election.

There was a candidate for the Democrat party nomination for Governor of Virginia this year who could disabuse her of that notion (but, she wouldn't listen).
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