Election 2012: Barack Obama 42%, Ron Paul 41%

[TheGreatOne]

lol how did we get two Sewer Socialists(') from California on a single board?  I think you guys should duel for the name.  

[TheGreatOne]

Rasmussen has officially lost it.

Yeah, I don't buy this.

However, I think Paul would do better then with Republicans than he would now, because by 2012, the Iraq War will be much less relevant.

The Republican Party will weed him out based on his non-interventionist foreign policy.  It sounds great in theory, but its very scary.  Most Americans will not vote for a person who looks softer on terrorism than Obama.

[TheGreatOne]

FiveThirtyEight.com posits that, without Rasmussen's house effect, Obama vs. Paul is more like Obama +10, which is probably closer to the truth.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/04/romney-not-paul-fares-best-in-12.html

Apparently, it is, for better or worse, Mittens who fares best in 2012 matchups.

EDIT: Haha, the first comment on that article could be written about this forum:

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Sorry, I'll trust Rasmussen over a hack site.

Come on, 538's pretty well respected. We're not talking about Daily Kos here.

Obama +10 is ridiculous. Obama's popularity is sinking by the hour.

The election's two years away. Reagan was less popular at this point, for example.

More to the point, (IMO) Paul's philosophy isn't "electable". I know we disagree on that, obviously...

Uh, Paul's philosophy is the only one left untried and untarnished after 12 years of BushBama.

Not to be crass, but they haven't tried, say, fascism, yet but it doesn't mean people want it. It's simple, really.

If you ask someone about "big government", their knee jerk reaction will be that of opposition, but start asking that hypothetical person about highways and Medicare and the Civil Rights Act(s) and their opinion may just change.

Of course we tried fascism. That's what is in power right now.

You cannot be serious. *facepalm*

Sorry, can you respectfully state what your objection is to my post?

Sure.

The idea the United States is currently under fascist rule is, I've gotta say, downright offensive to people who've lived under, y'know, actual fascist rule.

Offensive to Americans? Barack Obama is a fascist. That's a fact.

I guess we should just take your word for it.