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« on: January 10, 2010, 10:03:54 PM »

Between 2015 and 2020 at the earliest.
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2010, 01:20:36 AM »

Between 2015 and 2020 at the earliest.
LOL, yeah right.

Face it, Rockefeller Republicanism is dead.

I said at the earliest. They could reappear much later, or not reappear at all (which I seriously doubt).
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2010, 08:40:44 PM »


Garbage history. The Roosevelt split in 1912 permanently ended any "domination" on the part of the liberal, or even moderate, element of the Republican Party. Don't believe me? Let's look at every Republican President after Roosevelt:

Taft - Moderate-conservative
Harding - Conservative
Coolidge - Conservative
Hoover - Moderate
Eisenhower - Moderate
Nixon - Moderate-conservative
Reagan - Conservative
Bush the First - Moderate
Bush the Second - Conservative

That's four solidly conservative Presidents, two moderately conservative ones, and only three genuine moderates. And no liberals - some "domination".

I'd classify Taft, Eisenhower, Nixon, and Ford (whom you forgot) as liberal-moderate. I'd also classify Hoover and Bush Sr. as conservatives. I agree with all your other rankings, though.
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E: -5.23, S: -2.52

« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2010, 09:45:37 PM »


Garbage history. The Roosevelt split in 1912 permanently ended any "domination" on the part of the liberal, or even moderate, element of the Republican Party. Don't believe me? Let's look at every Republican President after Roosevelt:

Taft - Moderate-conservative
Harding - Conservative
Coolidge - Conservative
Hoover - Moderate
Eisenhower - Moderate
Nixon - Moderate-conservative
Reagan - Conservative
Bush the First - Moderate
Bush the Second - Conservative

That's four solidly conservative Presidents, two moderately conservative ones, and only three genuine moderates. And no liberals - some "domination".

I'd classify Taft, Eisenhower, Nixon, and Ford (whom you forgot) as liberal-moderate.

Taft was considerably to the Right of Roosevelt; Eisenhower ran against Truman as being "soft on Communism"; Nixon was an anti-Semite and notorious red-baiter; and Ford was never elected.

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Hoover was quite liberal, and instituted a number of measures that would later be expanded to encompass the New Deal. Bush the First flip-flopped on virtually everything.

Taft was only to the right of Roosevelt in rhetoric. He essentially continued all of TR's policies, and even issued more anti-trust lawsuits than TR. Eisenhower was pretty liberal-moderate on domestic and foreign policy. He supported the New Deal and high taxes on the rich, and essentially continued the foreign policy that FDR and Truman started. Nixon and Ford also supported the New Deal and the Great Society, as well as high taxes on the rich. In addition, Nixon and Ford did not do any dramatic changes to the foreign policy of their liberal predecessors. Ford was never elected, but you said you listed all Republican Presidents since 1912, not all elected Republican Presidents since 1912. That's why I reminded you about Ford. In regards to Hoover, I guess I agree with you. Bush Sr. was pretty liberal-moderate before 1980, but after he became VP and President he became very conservative. He supported low taxes for the rich and big business, as well as deregulation. Raising taxes on ordinary people is not necessarily a liberal thing to do--Reagan did it as well.
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2010, 11:24:16 PM »

They basically switched places with Dixiecrats.

That's right--almost all Dixiecrats either retired or went to the GOP, and almost all Rockefeller Republicans either retired or went to the Democrats. This, in turn, made American politics much more polarized.
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2010, 12:39:42 AM »

We [isorta[/i] exist in the Northeast, though, we rarely win. My Governor is pretty moderate.

Welcome to the forum!
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2010, 06:36:56 PM »

The Democratic Party has co-opted their agenda.

So never.

Never say never. That's what many people in the 19th century said about ever having a black President.
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2010, 09:09:10 PM »

The Democratic Party has co-opted their agenda.

So never.

Never say never. That's what many people in the 19th century said about ever having a black President.

Ok, how about "not for a while?"

That's much better. Now define "a while."
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