The Atlasian Tribune - Mechaman's column

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It's like the end of an era.

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I hope no one minds if I offer a few comments (and don't tell Hamilton I say any of this, please)

This interview seems to show a man who really has "gone to the dark side" so to speak. Certainly not the humorous and sarcastic Hamilton we were familiar with, but a more cynical and possibly enraged Atlasian. The focus of this entire interview (questions and answers) are on negatives rather than positives, and I don't know, it just seems like there is an almost sinister undertone to it that might reflect a bit more about Hamilton than anything the actual text of it says. This was the impression I got but feel free to disagree.

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Also, I'm sure he'll read what you just wrote, if he didn't author it himself to have you post for him.

He can't even view the forum because he was IP banned and permanently logged in.

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Biased.

Yes, obviously. He doesn't even consider that maybe 2-3 at the minimum Popularis members were in other parties when they voted. If you account for that, the DA, PCP, and ARC all run about even in terms of 'active' players and at-large Senate representation. It's actually his own party (JCP) that fails to be active in proportion.

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To clarify, my post is not meant to sound like I am whining that we do not receive support from other right leaning parties, but it is merely to point out that some of the vitriol coming out of their camps were more pointed towards the RPP than the left leaning parties. If there was concern about actually winning elections on the right, the coalitions should not sit around and fight with each other. It is, in many ways, our fault that we are in this state right now. The tables have turned from the days when the RPP was dominating.

Too bad you are one of the main roadblocks to any such progress behind closed doors, Duke. Your public lying needs to stop. I have never seen a single sensible utterance from your keyboard. Not only that, but you have horrible politics that I'm not going to support. Bailouts, cap and trade, gun control, abortion, etc. all disgust me intensely. I feel no different voting for someone like Kalwejt and voting for you when it comes right down to it.

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To clarify, my post is not meant to sound like I am whining that we do not receive support from other right leaning parties, but it is merely to point out that some of the vitriol coming out of their camps were more pointed towards the RPP than the left leaning parties. If there was concern about actually winning elections on the right, the coalitions should not sit around and fight with each other. It is, in many ways, our fault that we are in this state right now. The tables have turned from the days when the RPP was dominating.

Too bad you are one of the main roadblocks to any such progress behind closed doors, Duke. Your public lying needs to stop. I have never seen a single sensible utterance from your keyboard. Not only that, but you have horrible politics that I'm not going to support. Bailouts, cap and trade, gun control, abortion, etc. all disgust me intensely. I feel no different voting for someone like Kalwejt and voting for you when it comes right down to it.

You know, it's good to back up such bold claims with actual facts. Otherwise, your statements will fall of deaf ears. If you want to discuss this in private, then fine, because I will not respond to any public accusations you make from here on out in this thread.That said, I'd love to hear how I am a "roadblock" and how I apparently lie in public - considering those are two huge charges. But don't worry, I'm not pandering for the votes from characters such as yourself. I'm just merely pointing out, as you just beautifully demonstrated, the infighting occurring on the right, and how many of us would rather support a far-leftist as opposed to someone in the middle, rather than forming a broad coalition for victory. Until we can all put aside our differences, we will always be far behind, and the JCP will continue to dominate elections. This is, of course, the mindset of most libertarians such as yourself - I'd rather be dominated by someone with views that are completely opposite of my own rather than someone who is somewhat different than my own! This is what has made the Republican Party so successful (purge those who have any differing views!) in 2006 and 2008.

Keep fighting the good fight!

Cut the crap. Even your own chairman knows that you along with Rowan are the main force preventing any of us from getting along. You're rude, stubborn, and hateful towards people in your party and everyone in mine. Not only that, but I fail to see how YOU are right-leaning in any way, given the stances I outlined above, so even if I cared about building some kind of right-wing coalition (which I do NOT), you'd be near the bottom of my list. Besides that, RPP members have ruthlessly attacked Populares and have already stated opposition to our candidates. If we aren't good enough for you to vote for us, you guys are not good enough for us to vote for you. And this is never going to end because face it... none of us like each other one bit, and our politics are vastly different. Is it at all telling that no more libertarians exist in the RPP? I wasn't around when the right was united, my whole time here the RPP has been a joke so that is all I know from that side. I'm not expecting any RPP votes for any of my elections and I doubt other Populares do either. But remember that it is you who wanted it to be this way.

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Ah, OK. I was mistaken. I see you aren't interested in having a serious discussion. I guess it was too much to ask. Good luck in your endeavors!

A serious discussion with who? Certainly not you?

You're generalizations, sarcasm, condescension, fallacies, assumptions, and misinformation make your post devoid if anything even hinting toward serious discussion.

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I'm looking through June's voting booth (which turns out it wasn't decided by 1 vote, really, it was 50-50). I'll let you know what I find.

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realisticidealist voted for nobody.

Conor Flynn and Jas have fiscally moderate/socially liberal matrix scores. Both chose not to vote for PiT. It is not my place to assume the reason.

Holmes has a pretty liberal score and he voted for PiT over Lief.

Barnes, a political twin of Lief's, voted for PiT.

benconstine, an authoritarian, voted for libertarian PiT.

Winfield, the Romney supporter, voted for Lief.

KyleGordon voted for PiT, I have no clue seeing as he is economically leftist.

Whacky Hack voted for Gporter and PiT but not Lief.

AndrewCT voted for Lief, despite his expression of strong support for JOHN THUNE of all people.

RosettaStoned voted for Lief for some reason.

Those were the weirder votes I noticed. So, there must be a nonideological factor behind the voting patterns of Atlasians. What other reasons, perhaps friendship or partisanship or something else that I would never know about.

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How long has this party system been in place? Almost a year and a half, right?

Hasn't the JCP held the presidency the entire time and won every national election since?

Well, if you define "every election" as 2 for 2, with the first one being a contested tie.

bgwah served two terms. Also, Bacon King, Marokai Blue, and Fritz won national special elections, something every other party has failed to do.

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How long has this party system been in place? Almost a year and a half, right?

Hasn't the JCP held the presidency the entire time and won every national election since?

Well, if you define "every election" as 2 for 2, with the first one being a contested tie.

bgwah served two terms. Also, Bacon King, Marokai Blue, and Fritz won national special elections, something every other party has failed to do.

Franzl did win a special election DA over Brandonh in March 2009.

The wiki says there was no JCP candidate. The JCP must ahve voted for Franzl, making him the de facto JCP candidate.

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Imagine, SPC as President and , myself, Disraeli, Mint in the Senate

Keep dreaming...

Well, the Senate races are almost certainly done deals, I'm less optimistic about SPC.

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You hate Libertas because he opposes your fat agenda?