Constitutional Amendment to Allow a Secret Ballot

[MasterJedi]

I fully support this, we need a secret ballot to help cut down on strategic voting.

[MasterJedi]

How do we make sure it is fair?

I was thinking that we could amendmend it to have the SoFA, DSoFA, and one or two other people to recieve the ballots. They would be of different parties and not running for an election at the time.



And I'll say I won't support a mandatory secret ballot at all.

[MasterJedi]

In what little time I have now to read the Commissions Report (I mostly read the amendment) I believe that we should vote to replace the original amendment on here with the commissions one.

[MasterJedi]

So, what are we discussing here now?

[MasterJedi]

Uh Defarge, that's not what I wanted it to be replaced with, this is.


Section 1

1. During any federal election, a registered voter may choose to submit their ballot or absentee ballot in secret. This is considered an optional alternative form of voting to a public ballot. The method of vote submission is outlined in Section 2, Clause 4 below.
2. All secret ballots must satisfy all clauses outlined in Section 1 of the Omnibus Election System, Procedure and Certification Act.
3. No registered voter may vote both publicly and secretly in the same election. If this occurs, the Secretary of Forum Affairs will discount both votes.

Section 2

1. For the purposes of counting and validating secret ballots, an Electoral Committee will be assembled by no later than a week before the election is scheduled to begin.
2. The Committee will be comprised of three members, consisting of the Secretary of Forum Affairs, the Vice President, and the President Pro Tempore of the Senate.
3. In the event that any of the office holders listed either are themselves candidates in the election or are not present to fulfill their duty, those in the aforementioned situation shall be replaced by the highest office holder in the following list who is not a candidate present in the election and who is present to fulfill the duty:

• Secretary of State
• Attorney General
• Secretary of Defense
• Secretary of the Treasury
• District 1 Senator
• District 2 Senator
• District 3 Senator
• District 4 Senator
• District 5 Senator
• Mideast Regional Senator
• Midwest Regional Senator
• Northeast Regional Senator
• Pacific Regional Senator
• Southeast Regional Senator

4. Identical copies of all secret ballots will be submitted for counting by the voter to each of the three members of the Committee in the form of a personal message.
5. Once voting has officially ended, the Committee will convene in a private and suitable manner. Each member will ensure that their own collected ballots are identical to the corresponding ballots collected by the other two members.
6. In the event that any one of the three copies of a ballot does not match the corresponding copies, the ballot will be discounted.
7. All legitimate ballots will then be incorporated into the vote count and subsequent certification for the relevant election.
8. Once the election has been certified, the Committee will disband.
9. Corruption, electoral fraud, the changing of votes, and tampering with any votes in any way, is hereby criminalized in Atlasia. All members of said committee who are found guilty of any of these charges will have all their voting rights stripped for a maximum for one year. Trails will be conducted according to the provisions set in place by the Omnibus Criminal Law Act.

[MasterJedi]

That's what I originally posted.  The thing is that's the actual bill detailing how to vote in secret.  The Constitution must first be amended to allow secret balloting.  Then we can pass the bill proposed by the commission on how to conduct secret voting. 

Of course, if you want me to switch back to voting on the secret ballot bill before it is constitutional, I will do so.

I was thinking of the bill instead of the amendment, anyways I will be supporting Gabu's instead of Peter's now.

[MasterJedi]

Is there a way to add to the amendment that secret voting cannot be done until the Senate passes a Secret Voting Bill and Procedure?

If not could we get a vote on Gabu's original amendment?

[MasterJedi]

We're wondering if we can throw something in that would make it so nobody can use a secret ballot until we pass a procedure to do so but we don't know how.

[MasterJedi]

So can we get a vote on Gabu's new amendment then?

[MasterJedi]

So are we having a vote or what? And I don't really get what Peter means.

[MasterJedi]

Surely this is now a debate for the relevant bill that follows after this?

No, we haven't even voted on the amendment yet. -_-

[MasterJedi]

So, uh, can we get a vote on the amendment, or something?

Yeah, a good idea, like I asked for a day ago!

[MasterJedi]

Aye

[MasterJedi]

So um Al, what the heck are we voting for?

[MasterJedi]

So um Al, what the heck are we voting for?

Something. The amendment at the top of page four. I think.

For final passage or to make to amend the original amendment?

[MasterJedi]

So can we have a re-vote and have it stated that it's to modify the amendment with the one on page 4 or if it's on the final vote on the amendment on page 4?

[MasterJedi]

I thought that was the idea.

Yes but I'd just like to point it out to Al. (No offense to him )

[MasterJedi]

On Gabu's page 4 amendment to this Constitutional Amendment:

Yea

[MasterJedi]

The vote has passed. We now vote on the final Constitutional Amendment, right?

Right

[MasterJedi]

Aye

[MasterJedi]

5 Aye
2 Nay
0 Abstain


One more vote and this will pass.

[MasterJedi]

2 More for 2/3rds?

-_- Why do I keep forgeting that?

[MasterJedi]

DanielX, MAS117 and PBrunsel still need to vote!

[MasterJedi]

Ok the count is:

5 Aye
2 Nay
1 Abstain

So now it is only 1 more Aye vote for this to pass.

[MasterJedi]

YES, this is finally passed!

6 Aye
2 Nay
1 Abstain