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No, I wouldn't even if he vetoed it
 
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No, I would vote third party
 
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No, this would cause me to vote for the Republican candidate
 
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No, I would stay at home
 
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Yes, I would still vote for him
 
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Author Topic: Will you vote for Obama if he signs SOPA into law?  (Read 11152 times)
Penelope
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« on: December 30, 2011, 04:22:24 PM »

If he signs it, it may be a good reason to vote for him.

Yes.

All the adolescent boys up in arms about this need to grow up. There is no inherent right to piracy. Anther person's intellectual property does not belong to you.

It is Youtube and Facebook's responsibility to ensure they are not hosting illegal content.

"There is no right to piracy" =/= "Let's give the government the right to shut down websites they don't like."
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Penelope
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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2011, 05:10:41 PM »

Piracy is lost sales. Not stealing.

Again with this "fascism". Unless this bill supports the creation of a totalitarian single-party state that seeks the mass mobilization of a nation through discipline, indoctrination, physical education, and family policy, led by a supreme leader who exercises a dictatorship over the fascist movement, the government and other state institutions, it isn't fascism.

Comparisons are being drawn to fascism, because the bill gives the right to censor and shut down websites for nebulous reasons that are not really explained - "hosting illegal content". Comparisons are also being drawn to fascism because there is no due process for this. It basically gives the government the right to shut down a website on a whim. 

Saying that piracy will destroy culture is like saying bootleg videotapes will culture. Oh wait they haven't. Piracy and bootlegging has been going on for decades and the entertainment industry has not been completely torn apart and culture has not fallen into disarray. Well, maybe you don't like the guys who are popular in music or acting right now, but I'm pretty sure people aren't cannibalizing each other in the streets and burning down buildings because piracy has cost the entertainment industry sales.
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Penelope
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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2011, 05:36:33 PM »

Well, I dunno man, censorship is pretty bad.

Piracy I could care less about, I'm not a pirate and I don't download music or games illegally. The problem is SOPA basically just takes a carpet bombing approach of destroying and shutting down websites ala China and Syria. Because, you know, those are great nations who we should aspire to live up to, am I right guys?
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