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« on: May 28, 2019, 07:24:31 AM »

The EC needs to go, and our Presidents should be elected by popular vote.

As much as I loathe Hillary Clinton, it is hard to defend Trump's election as the will of the people when she won the popular vote by almost 3 million votes.  Now Trump won election fair and square, according to the rules, but PEOPLE vote, and not "states" or "interests". 

Well said.

Trump should not be president.  George W. Bush shouldn't have been either.
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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2019, 03:04:41 PM »

Weird how nobody ever proposes introducing an electoral college for governor elections if it’s such a great system.

They would say that doesn't make sense, but keeping it as a system for presidential elections makes perfect sense to them.

There is no debating with that crowd, no matter how much logic you use or how well thought out your arguments.

The reason is because they realize, deep down, that they cannot win elections based on the will of the people and the only way they can win elections is through technicality (the electoral college), voter fraud, or otherwise cheating.
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2019, 07:08:28 AM »

I really don't see why people think scrapping the EC is an outrageous idea... it's clearly an outdated system that was originally intended to keep the interests of white rich landowning guys in the WH....

Fine since this is most people's beef with the EC...here's my compromise: The presidential winner is the one who wins the popular majority...of the most states.  No EC numbers, no delegates.

You just to win the popular majority in 26 or more of the 50 states.  And looking back at the last few elections, we would've had the same winners each time.

But no you won't like that, because Wyoming would be the most powerful and the masses in Cali wouldn't.  Well, that balances out what happens in the House, doesn't it?

Can you give a well thought out reason for why it's bad to simply have the person who wins the most votes as the winner of the election?

And also..."the masses" in California are just as much American citizens as you.  Are you implying that their voice doesn't matter as much as yours does?
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