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« on: March 13, 2017, 05:53:25 AM »
« edited: March 13, 2017, 05:58:09 AM by Clay »

Fine, look into it.

If it happened, let's see what the meetings were about.

At the same time, we can investigate Trump's team's meetings too.

Has anyone from the Clinton team lied under oath (or not) about it?

Are there any links between the Clinton campaign and a Russian bank, as there is with Trump?

Did Hillary praise Putin?  Did she deflect from questioning regarding the dictator's murders, and say that the US has some bad people too?  Has she ever shied away from calling Putin exactly what he is, a ruthless dictator?  Did Putin ever praise her back?  (For that matter, did Hillary receive praise from any other world dictators?...or praise any others herself?  Trump received such praise, and returned it.)

Is there a constant stream of one thing after another with regard to Hillary's campaign getting help during the election from Russia?

Anyway, yes, let's investigate both campaign's connection to Russia.  I'm all for it.

I, for one, would like to know if either candidate did indeed have any shady dealings or in fact collaborated with a foreign government during the election.  I would love to have absolute transparency when it comes to things like this, and as citizens and voters, we all have a right to know.  (We also have a right to see our candidates' tax returns; I know that's randomly thrown in here, but then again, it might not be so random.)
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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2017, 02:26:10 PM »

HRC has never shied away from calling Putin who he is not. Trump has never shied away from calling Putin who he is. There's a difference there, and it may not be evident to unsophisticated consumers if media lies, like many McCain-Hillary voters.

Fine, whatever. I guess I just have to accept that you do not believe in any American values, and that you genuinely admire leaders who have their detractors killed. So...that's you, and I just have to get used to knowing there are a lot of other people in my country like you. And that's why America is becoming less and less what our founding fathers envisioned.

But back to my post, as a Clinton voter, I back an investigation into what (if any) kind of involvement her campaign had with Russia, as alleged in the OPs article. If something happened during the election, I want to know what it was--as an HRC voter, and someone who even contributed money toward her campaign, I am owed that.

Would you be in favor of investigating the same involvement of the Trump campaign, where all is revealed? After all, if nothing happened, then why not put this matter to rest once and for all?

Amd say such an investigation occurs, and it is discovered that the Trump campaign DID collaborate with Russia to win the election...would you still support Trump?
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2017, 04:01:59 PM »

Outright denial of there even being the sheer possibility that Trump and his campaign acted in an illegal manner with regard to the Russia scandal.

I've seen spin, and I get it.  Politics is politics.

This business with Russia, if true, is outside of all that.  I don't get why it's so hard to comprehend.  Had Hillary won, and all of this Russia stuff started coming out, I would at the very least call for an investigation to see what exactly happened.  Doesn't matter what party they're in--if anyone collaborated with a foreign power to tamper with an election, that's criminal, and is not worthy of your blind devotion.
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2017, 05:34:58 PM »

Not meant to insult you.  It's genuinely concerning to me that people in this country can be so devoted to an authoritarian figure, and actually elect him their leader.  Then, when the stuff about Russia starts trickling out, you all just act like it's not a thing, it didn't happen, it doesn't warrant investigating, nothing to see here.  Not you personally, although you certainly are guilty of it; I'm referring to all of Trump's voters.  Many are in my own family.  I just don't get it.  If you'd like to try and explain it to me (with legitimate sources--not something like Breitbart) then I'd be grateful.

From what I understand, your position is that because we lack hard evidence we shouldn't question.  Even when there are very strong signals that all lead to a connection between Trump and Russia.  Trump's deep admiration of Putin alone is concerning.  But it isn't just that, and you (and all your Trump supporting peers) know it.

And back to a point I just made--"because we lack hard evidence we shouldn't question"--since this seems to be your position with Trump/Russia, I must assume it was your position on any number of the supposed Hillary scandals?  Benghazi, e-mails, etc.?
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2017, 03:50:43 PM »

If Hillary Clinton had done one tenth of the things Trump did with Russia impeachment would have already passed the House and blue avatars would be demanding blood.

Yep.  Just like when Bill had the affair and lied under oath, they were all over it.  Meanwhile, Trump grabs women by the p*ssy, and his people lie left and right--at least one of which was under oath.
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